Dear Steve, Thank you ever so much. I knew there had been an excavation there--read the book about it--but did not know the two areas were the same. Lucky you to have helped excavate the site. I am researching the Bailey families that lived in the area. You mentioned Cicely who married Samuel Jordan and then Wm Farrar. Prior to the marriage to Samuel, she had married a Bayly (I think Thomas). A William Bayly had land that was south of and "near" the mouth of Bayly's Creek. Can you by any chance tell me how far the Jordan's Journey palisade was from Bayly's Creek? Netti nsyantis.erols.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Boxley <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:21 AM Subject: Re: "Beggar's Bush" & "Jourdan's Journey" While working at VCU, I had the pleasure of helping excavate Jordan's Journey, which is on Jordans Point. I believe that this and "Beggars Bush" may be the same place. Samuel Jordan lived here until his death in 1623 or 25, my memory fails me. After that William Ferrar (I believe it was William, again it's been a long time), married Cicely and they lived there until the mid 1630's, when they removed to another of Ferrar's plantations. Beggar's Bush is from a Shakespeare play I believe. By the way, the plantation site was really quite a large palisaded enclosure. Lovely site! -- Steve Boxley, Ja.T., M.N. The Virginia Foundation for Archaeological Research, Inc. [log in to unmask] To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html.