Hey, Dee; great pic; I think the neck ribbon, tie, or accoutrement is as interesting since he is VERY well and conservatively dressed, yet that ribbon seems to be vari-colored and striped; seems at variance with ordinary dress-up apparel.
I also would suggest that his other decoration is a combination watch fob and symbol. Perhaps others on the list will provide more definitive info than you now have.
Thanks for the beautiful story, Craig.
Pins are quite interesting. Here is a picture of my great-grandfather
1869-1949 with a lapel pin. He was a grocery store owner and an undertaker,
both at the same time, which I understand was as common as not during the
time. Seems an odd pin for a man to be wearing for jewelry -- any comments?
http://tinypic.com/2zhfaqs.jpg
Thanks.
Dee
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Subject: [VAROOTS] Lapel Pins (idea from Paul Drake)
> Paul mentions his memory being jogged on the recent IOOF tombstone
> inscription and corresponding memory of his father's lapel pin.
>
> This has jogged MY memory on another lapel pin. While in college, I
> joined
> a fraternity. Many happy memories etc. After college, I was going
> through
> my father's jewel box and came across a lapel pin from another fraternity
> (Kappa Sigma). I asked my dad "WHAT IS THIS?" He said, "Oh, that? That
> was dad's [his father's] fraternity pin." Naturally, I wanted to know
> more
> but first and foremost I was pretty upset that I could (and should) have
> been a "legacy" of that fraternity, and not to have joined another
> fraternity (being fresh out of college I guess that still meant something
> to me.).
>
> But, it still intrigued me. I didn't even know my grandfather had
> attended
> college. So I asked more questions. Where? "Oh, didn't I ever tell you?
> Dad went to med school at Wash U (Washington University, St. Louis)"
>
> Oh, he did? News to me. (My father was nearly 50 when I was born, and my
> grandfather died in 1926, and was nothing but a handsome portrait on our
> wall.) Well then, why wasn't he a doctor? "Because," my father adds, "he
> had to stay home to help his father tend the farm."
>
> I accepted that version of the story for a long, long time. But if you
> think on it, why on earth would parents move heaven and earth for their
> only child to get to college in 1904 to be a doctor and then have him
> return home full time to run a small farm that was only a trolly ride
> away?
>
> So....keep on digging, right? The truth finally comes out. My
> grandfather
> was twice married. I always knew that. And that his first wife died in
> childbirth. That much was true. But I never knew the dates until I
> looked
> them up.
>
> 1904 was a heady year for young St. Louisans. The Worlds Fair. Romance in
> the Air. Right on the next-door grounds of Wash U. As it turns out, my
> grandfather and Miss Sarah Long, a neighbor of his parents, were married
> in
> May of that year. In October of that year, she died "suddenly" according
> to her obituary.
>
> This is the same year he dropped out of college to "help his father on the
> farm." I have since confirmed the same story with a LONG family
> descendant
> who had it described the exact same way to her.
>
> In no way was his help needed on the farm. At this time, his father was
> the picture of health and had plenty of hired help. His parents had sent
> him to private high school in Liberty, Missouri and were now keen on his
> college education in medicine. Apparently, their plans were set asunder
> by
> the breezy, balmy and intoxicating days of the St. Louis World's Fair.
>
> This entire story only became revealed due to the existence of a
> fraternity
> lapel pin. By the way, I contacted Kappa Sigma's national headquarters
> and
> received a very nice letter in response. My grandfather was founding
> member of the chapter at Wash U, and they supplied me with a copy of the
> charter application which provided a handsome signature for him and the
> other young men. I also noticed one of the men signing was the same
> person
> for whom my father was named, who DID become a doctor, and delivered my
> father.
>
>
>
>
>
> Craig Kilby
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>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Paul Drake <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: Larry A Whinery <[log in to unmask]>; <[log in to unmask]>;
> <[log in to unmask]>; <[log in to unmask]>;
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> davis
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>> Date: 10/8/2006 10:09:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE] FLT
>>
>> Hi, Larry and Kelly, and all others who responded to my question re
> "F.L.T." As many of you have reminded me, it was and is the symbol for
> the
> IOOF (International Order of Odd Fellows) a fraternal association of men.
> Though the group was, and remains vigorous, active, and open to all men of
> good character, it was thought to be more needed in the last half of the
> 19th Century.
>>
>> I must have had a complete loss of consciousness/memory, since my
> G-GFather was a member for years, and I have his lapel pin bearing that
> symbol, as well as a photo from 1905 showing him and the men of the group
> of which he was a member in Ohio.
>>
>> Thanks, again, to all. Paul
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Larry A Whinery
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 7:55 AM
>> Subject: FLT
>>
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>> I certainly do enjoy your expertise.
>>
>> The reply[s] you already have received are right on.
>> I am an Oddfellow {?} and those initials within the three links of a
>> chain constitute the logo or whatever of the Order, just as the G,
>> Compass and Square are recognized as the symbol of the Masonic Lodge.
>>
>> Again, Thanks for your contributions!
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Larry A. Whinery
>> in Indiana
>>
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