No you didn't respond. If you had a few moments I would love to know.
Regards Dusty Smith
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From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history.
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Subject: Re: Shelley Murphy
Hi did I respond to your question. When I switch from ipad to laptop, some
get overlooked.
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On Jul 16, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Dusty Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Shelley - do you mind if I ask which tests you ordered from 23andme
> and FTDNA? So you did both maternal and paternal?
> Tks Dusty
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> From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Shelley
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 7:51 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re:
> Cnythia
> McDaniel)
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> I have used several with various family lines: FamilytreeDNA, African
> Ancestry, National Genographic and 23andme. I am most happy with
> 23andme and FamilytreeDNA. You are correct with 23and me I am 55.6%
> European, 41% Sub saharan African, and .06% Asian/Native American, 1.9
> unassigned. African Ancestry told me I did not have any African
> ancestry (because they test only went back so far and connected to the
> current tribes), my maternal line came from a European Female. They are
probably correct on both counts.
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> Shelley Murphy, DM
> aka "familytreegirl"
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> Know Your Roots They are Long and Strong!
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> From: Linda Threadgill <[log in to unmask]>
> To: VA-ROOTS <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 9:35 am
> Subject: Re: DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re:
> Cnythia
> McDaniel)
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> Anita,
> Friends and family who have tested with AfricanAncestry were not
> pleased with the results especially for the money paid and especially
> if you have a significant amount of European ancestry. Some have
> tested with African Ancestry first then had to go to other companies for
more valid results.
> Linda
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> From: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 9:47 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re:
> Cnythia McDaniel)
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> Another lab that can be helpful is Howard University, which has a
> Genome Project. My brother tested there and the results came back 100%
> Native American on our paternal side. He transferred his results to
> FTDNA where I was tested in 2003. My results came back from FTDNA as
> partially Native American 8% and African 5%, but 87% European. Which
> was not surprising since that is what the Genealogy work I completed on my
Maternal Lines showed.
> Although Howard tests for African Ancestry, my brother and cousins
> have tested as Native American and they provided them with
> certificates of Native Ancestry. Again, you must do the work of
> proving which tribe your ancestors come from. DNA is only one tool that
can be used to prove your lines.
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> Howard University Genome Project
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> "If you believe people have no history worth mentioning, it's easy to
> believe they have no humanity worth defending."
> - William Loren Katz
> June 18, 2009
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Linda Threadgill <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 12:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA testing for Native American heritage (was:
re:
>> Cnythia McDaniel)
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>> Dusty,
>> My approach would be to first find out and understand exactly what
>> each type of test will give you the information you are looking for.
>> No DNA test is going to give you tribal information. Also, most tests
>> are too general to give you any current or specific information and
>> unless you can prove your tribal affiliation thru a genealogy path,
>> it is my understanding that DNA info alone is not enough to be
>> admitted into any tribe.
>>
>> Then consider the amount of NA who are doing DNA testing. At 23andMe
>> there are very few. What I have seen is that there is a fear of
>> testing because of the risk of being removed from the tribal rolls. I
>> never suggest that anyone test to prove any ethnic connection.
>> Usually when doing autosomal testing the percentage of NA genes that
>> is shown is very low. This is due to several factors. One of which is
>> recombination.
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>> Y and MTDNA testing is used to trace information or to connect people
>> to a common ancestor. The ability to trace to a common ancestor
>> changes depending on whether your surname is the same as the persons
>> you match. MTDNA testing really doesn't help much to find a common
>> ancestor because most people don't know the maiden names of their
>> female ancestors and in some cases the common ancestor goes back
>> thousands of years. Neither Y or MTDNA will cover all of your
>> families lines so the benefit is minimal.
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>> If money is a consideration, 23andMe has the most bang for your buck.
>> I am finding many will test with 23andMe and upload the raw data
>> received from them to www.gedmatch.com for free. Folks who tested
>> with FTDNA and Ancestry.com can also upload their information there.
>> Another thing with 23andMe is that I think folks there are more apt
>> to share information as compared to FTDNA. 23andMe has community
>> forums where discussions of all types can be found. Also, 23andMe, if
>> a tester is male, will do the Y, MTDNA and autosomal test for 1
>> price. It will also narrow your Y and MTDNA haplogroups into what is
>> called subclades without any additional testing..
>> FTDNA will charge additional for these tests.
>>
>> I originally tested with FTDNA in 2005, with AncestryByDNA in 2006
>> and 23andMe in 2010. Many of my family has tested and done both
>> MTDNA, YDNA and autosomal testing. Most of my family are tri-racial and
are part NA.
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>> One last thing, be very careful when deciding which projects to join
>> at FTDNA if this becomes your choice for a testing company. I have
>> seen some blogs, articles, etc that I question if the information
>> contained was obtained by ethical means, especially when it comes to
>> NA and Melungeon results. For a discussion on this, 23andMe is the
>> forum where you will find information.
>>
>> Linda
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 8:38 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA testing for Native American heritage (was:
re:
>> Cnythia McDaniel)
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>> Dusty:
>>
>> 1. Start with the video animations
>> <http://www.smgf.org/pages/animations.jspx> and know the differences
>> among the types of DNA tests and what the purpose of each is.
>>
>> 2. Decide what question(s) you want answered about which ancestor(s).
>>
>> 3. Follow Roberta Estes's blog <http://dna-explained.com>. She has
>> posted about every other day for the past year.
>>
>> 4. Get your 87-year-old male cousin tested by FamilyTreeDNA.com
>> (FTDNA) for his and your late father's yDNA, even at the low
>> 12-marker anthropological level. For genealogical results, at least
>> 37 markers are needed. His cheek brushings specimen will be preserved
>> for 25 years so that additional tests and upgrades can be ordered
>> later. Become the _contact_ person for his results and the
>> _beneficiary_ of his results at FTDNA. Or find another member of your
>> family who is willing to take on that responsibility.
>>
>> 5. Obtain autosomal DNA testing on yourself at 23andMe.com or
>> FamilyTreeDNA.com. If you obtain testing at 23andMe.com or another
>> company, it is advisable to transfer your data (does not include the
>> spit
>> specimen) to FTDNA (for a fee) and to GEDmatch.com (free) to obtain
>> additional matches. FTDNA is currently having a sale through part of
July..
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>> 6. Join a DNA genealogy group in your local area or within your local
>> genealogical society for information, discussion, and help.
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>> Or hire a professional genetic genealogist to make the testing
>> decisions and interpret the results for you. One place to find such a
>> person is at the Association for Professional Genealogists
>> <www.apgen.org>. Another place is on the DNA blogs: _DNA eXplained_,
>> _Your Genetic Genealogist_, _The Genetic Genealogist_, and _The Legal
Genealogist_.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> --Ida Skarson McCormick, [log in to unmask], Seattle, Member of the
>> Seattle Genealogical Society's DNA Interest Group
>>
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>> Dusty wrote:
>> I have read most of what you referred me and am nonetheless very
>> confused. I find it overwhelming.
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