Carole,
Perhaps he may have simply been a "live-in" employee. I think the owner
would pay the taxes for him the same as if he was a member of the family.
That seems to track with what Tim sent. The best I can recommend is to look
at the personal property tax records going back from 1817 on a year-by-year
basis. You may be able to see when he first paid taxes. That would b a
clue to tell you when he turned 21.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Carole D. Bryant
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:28 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] age to pay taxes in 1817?
Jim, I have no idea yet if he was serving as an apprentice. It was a
farming community, and in all the censuses, he was always a farmer, so he
may
have been working on the farm of his guardian. Though I have yet to check
guardianship records in the courthouse, I did find (in his papers) an (begun
in
1819 and paid in full 1821) account in the name of his guardian. My
problem is that I am not sure of his birth year. Judging by censuses, he
was born
1799-1800. But then, looking at this 1817 tax receipt -- in his name -- I
began to wonder if he was older than I thought .... hence, the question.
Thanks !
Carole
In a message dated 6/7/2011 8:47:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
You're welcome, Carole. I'll yield to Tim Spradling. My knowledge is
primarily a practical one; i.e., what worked for me. I did quite a bit of
research to back it up but clearly not to the extent Tim did.
I do believe that the person that you mention would not have to pay
until age 21. Do you think he was serving as an apprentice to his
guardian?
I believe the guardian would pay the tax until he was 21. If you could
find
the tax year he turned 21, it might give a clue as to who his guardian was
if that is of interest. The guardian could be a relative. This
especially
can work when there is an ambiguity in the county with more than one
person
of the same name. In my case, in King William County, at age 21, my
ancestor was listed as William Terry (son of Gideon) to distinguish him
from
the two other William Terrys in the county. That kept up for several
years.
This helped the Sheriff know which one paid his taxes. (The same thing
happened in Brunswick County on another of my lines.) Possibly you might
find your person designated in some similar way.
Good luck,
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Carole D. Bryant
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:08 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] age to pay taxes in 1817?
Thank you, Jim !
In the case I'm looking at, there is no father and the person I'm looking
at has a "guardian." (I am not sure if he is living by himself or if he is
in the home of a relative.) Does this mean that he, himself, will begin to
pay at age 16?
Carole
In a message dated 6/6/2011 1:03:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
My understanding is that taxes were paid at age 21. There were
exceptions
for Constables and other categories that didn't pay taxes. One clue to
the
age and to find the father that I always use is that the father paid taxes
for white tithables as of age 16. In a couple of counties, I checked each
year's personal property tax lists for the years' prior to when a person
first paid taxes to find their father. It worked for me in Brunswick and
King William Counties during the time frame from 1782 to about 1830 (I
didn't need to go more recently). Some years have other tax records that
are also helpful. The records for many counties are available from the
LDS
microfilm collection, including these two.
Jim Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: Carole D. Bryant
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:44 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] age to pay taxes in 1817?
A receipt for taxes paid was found in a collection of "old papers" kept
all these years by the family.
Actually, I do not know the man's age with any certainty, but am trying to
nail it down. Seems like this might be a clue, IF I knew how old he would
HAVE TO BE to be charged for levies.
Carole
In a message dated 6/6/2011 11:39:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
How did you find out the amount of taxes they paid and do you think the
age
? would be for the 1700s?
Thanks,
Margie
-----Original Message-----
From: Carole D. Bryant
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 3:22 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [VA-ROOTS] age to pay taxes in 1817?
This question can be combined with my earlier question.
If a young man paid Virginia Personal Property taxes in 1817 (county
levies
$.35; parish levies $.44), it would mean he was over what age?
Thank you very much.
Carole
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