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Linda Threadgill <[log in to unmask]>
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Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history." <[log in to unmask]>
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Anita,
Friends and family who have tested with AfricanAncestry were not pleased 
with the results especially for the money paid and especially if you have a 
significant amount of European ancestry. Some have tested with African 
Ancestry first then had to go to other companies for more valid results.
Linda

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Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 9:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re: 
Cnythia McDaniel)

Another lab that can be helpful is Howard University, which has a Genome 
Project. My brother tested there and the results came back 100% Native 
American on our paternal side. He transferred his results to FTDNA where I 
was tested in 2003. My results came back from FTDNA as partially Native 
American 8% and African 5%, but 87% European. Which was not surprising since 
that is what the Genealogy work I completed on my Maternal Lines showed. 
Although Howard tests for African Ancestry, my brother and cousins have 
tested as Native American and they provided them with certificates of Native 
Ancestry. Again, you must do the work of proving which tribe your ancestors 
come from. DNA is only one tool that can be used to prove your lines.

Howard University Genome Project

Anita Wills
























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>________________________________
> From: Linda Threadgill <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 12:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re: 
>Cnythia McDaniel)
>
>
>Dusty,
>My approach would be to first find out and understand exactly what each 
>type
>of test will give you the information you are looking for. No DNA test is
>going to give you tribal information. Also, most tests are too general to
>give you any current or specific information and unless you can prove your
>tribal affiliation thru a genealogy path, it is my understanding that DNA
>info alone is not enough to be admitted into any tribe.
>
>Then consider the amount of NA who are doing DNA testing. At 23andMe there
>are very few. What I have seen is that there is a  fear of testing because
>of the risk of being removed from the tribal rolls. I never suggest that
>anyone test to prove any ethnic connection. Usually when doing autosomal
>testing the percentage of NA genes that is shown is very low. This is due 
>to
>several factors. One of which is recombination.
>
>Y and MTDNA testing is used to trace information or to connect people to a
>common ancestor. The ability to trace to a common ancestor changes 
>depending
>on whether your surname is the same as the persons you match. MTDNA testing
>really doesn't help much to find a common ancestor because most people 
>don't
>know the maiden names of their female ancestors  and in some cases the
>common ancestor goes back thousands of years. Neither Y or MTDNA will cover
>all of your families lines so the benefit is minimal.
>
>If money is a consideration, 23andMe has the most bang for your buck. I am
>finding many will test with 23andMe and upload the raw data received from
>them to www.gedmatch.com for free. Folks who tested with FTDNA and
>Ancestry.com can also upload their information there. Another thing with
>23andMe is that I think folks there are more apt to share information as
>compared to FTDNA. 23andMe has community forums where discussions of all
>types can be found. Also, 23andMe, if a tester is male, will do the Y, 
>MTDNA
>and autosomal test for 1 price. It will also narrow your Y and MTDNA
>haplogroups  into what is called subclades without any additional testing.
>FTDNA will charge additional for these tests.
>
>I originally tested with FTDNA in 2005, with AncestryByDNA in 2006 and
>23andMe in 2010. Many of my family has tested and done both MTDNA, YDNA and
>autosomal testing. Most of my family are tri-racial and are part NA.
>
>One last thing, be very careful when deciding which projects to join at
>FTDNA if this becomes your choice for a testing company. I have seen some
>blogs, articles, etc that I question if the information contained was
>obtained by ethical means, especially when it comes to NA and Melungeon
>results. For a discussion on this, 23andMe is the forum where you will find
>information.
>
>Linda
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: [log in to unmask]
>Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 8:38 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re:
>Cnythia McDaniel)
>
>Dusty:
>
>1. Start with the video animations
><http://www.smgf.org/pages/animations.jspx> and know the differences among
>the types of DNA tests and what the purpose of each is.
>
>2. Decide what question(s) you want answered about which ancestor(s).
>
>3. Follow Roberta Estes's blog <http://dna-explained.com>. She has posted
>about every other day for the past year.
>
>4. Get your 87-year-old male cousin tested by FamilyTreeDNA.com (FTDNA)
>for his and your late father's yDNA, even at the low 12-marker
>anthropological level. For genealogical results, at least 37 markers are
>needed. His cheek brushings specimen will be preserved for 25 years so
>that additional tests and upgrades can be ordered later. Become the
>_contact_ person for his results and the _beneficiary_ of his results at
>FTDNA. Or find another member of your family who is willing to take on
>that responsibility.
>
>5. Obtain autosomal DNA testing on yourself at 23andMe.com or
>FamilyTreeDNA.com. If you obtain testing at 23andMe.com or another
>company, it is advisable to transfer your data (does not include the spit
>specimen) to FTDNA (for a fee) and to GEDmatch.com (free) to obtain
>additional matches. FTDNA is currently having a sale through part of July.
>
>6. Join a DNA genealogy group in your local area or within your local
>genealogical society for information, discussion, and help.
>
>Or hire a professional genetic genealogist to make the testing decisions
>and interpret the results for you. One place to find such a person is at
>the Association for Professional Genealogists <www.apgen.org>. Another
>place is on the DNA blogs: _DNA eXplained_, _Your Genetic Genealogist_,
>_The Genetic Genealogist_, and _The Legal Genealogist_.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>--Ida Skarson McCormick, [log in to unmask], Seattle,
>Member of the Seattle Genealogical Society's DNA Interest Group
>
>------------------------
>Dusty wrote:
>I have read most of what you referred me and am nonetheless very
>confused. I find it overwhelming.
>
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