Dear all,
Brent Tarter's reminder about long reply strings might surprise some
folks unfamiliar with the details of this process. Most e-mail
systems won't allow you to directly edit opened messages that come to
you from other's, but, once you hit the reply button, you can cut
(and likely paste) as much as you like. That's where you can reduce
your attachments to just the latest message you are answering.
Finding illegitimacy can vary from easy to nearly impossible. Some
church records (I'm familiar with Lutheran records from the 1600s)
specifically spell out illegitimacy by pointing out the lack of a
father's name. In VA you can frequently spot it by finding an
otherwise surprising use of the family name coupled with a provision
for that person in a will. Indentured servants were routinely
punished for having illegitimate kids and court records [like the
newly on-line Chancery Records will record that. I've also found
likely illegitimate children to show up on census records as children
of parents [actually their grandparents] who are much too old to have
had them.
Somewhere on line a while back a fellow posted a little study he had
done of about 50 more or less random marriages (I think in VA in the
mid 1800s). In about 6 of every 10 cases the first child was born
way before 9 months. So don't cast any stones for a while.
Jack
On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:00 PM, VA-ROOTS automatic digest system wrote:
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> 1. Depression Babies and their Greatest Generation Parents
> 2. Links to Royalty
> 3. Va-Roots
> 4. Future researchers and info
> 5. Arrival Date for First Slaves in Rockbridge Co. (2)
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> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:53:47 -0400
> From: "Cynthia B. Gooch" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Depression Babies and their Greatest Generation Parents
>
> My mom was a depression baby whose family was hard-hit, like so
> many. Bu=
> t=20
> like most of the women in my family, she didn't get married until
> she was=
> =20
> almost 30. I was just a couple of months shy of 30 myself. I
> wasn't a "=
> Silent=20
> Generation" baby - I'm part of the boomers...but with a depression-
> era mo=
> m,=20
> we still heard plenty about it. When my husband's parents (who did
> fairl=
> y well=20
> financially) died, we found cabinets full of old tins from "chicken
> pot p=
> ies," old=20
> butter dishes, tin foil, etc. When we studied the depression in
> school, =
> I=20
> always felt like it was ALMOST a part of my own life...just beyond
> my str=
> etch=20
> back in time.
>
> Did your parents ever find themselves saying, "What you kids need
> is a go=
> od=20
> depression"?
>
> Cynthia - Phoenix, AZ
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> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:58:16 -0400
> From: "Cynthia B. Gooch" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Links to Royalty
>
> Getting info back through the Dark Ages? Hey! How about the
> Flood? I'd=
> =20
> have figured whatever was around at the time surely got
> waterlogged...and=
> =20
> shredded...and buried....and.....
>
> Cynthia - Phoenix, AZ
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> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:18:38 -0400
> From: "Tarter, Brent (LVA)" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Va-Roots
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> Several subscribers during the last few days have fallen into the very
> bad habit of using the Reply key to respond to a message and thereby
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> one they send.
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> Please pay attention to what you are doing and have a regard for the
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> Brent Tarter
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> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:57:02 EDT
> From: Rose Compton <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Future researchers and info
>
> Thanks Tom, That was good for a chuckle. Good Question Herb !!!
>
> I'm most curious to know what all the census records will contain
> as they
> are a lot more involved and detail oriented than the ones in the
> past. Everyone
> is listed by full name, including the children with different last
> names. I
> don't think I've ever given anyone as much info on myself as I had
> to for the
> 2000 census and I'm sure 2010 will want to know even more! As to
> women who
> use donor programs.... I would think the search would end there.
>
>
> Anyone considering the future, and prersent problems, trying to trace
> all these illigitamate children being born today, and the many
> other non
> traditional family births?
>
> Herb
>
> I'm pretty sure that Maury Povich and Jerry Springer are working that
> portion of the genealogy spectrum. I just hope they are keeping
> good records
> of their findings for future generations.
>
> Tom
> Eastern Shore & More
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> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:24:27 -0700
> From: Aurelia Brooks <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Arrival Date for First Slaves in Rockbridge Co.
>
> Can anyone direct me to sources that may answer when and who
> brought the
> first slaves to Rockbridge County, VA?
>
> Also, what was the largest number of slaves in Rockbridge prior to
> 1863?
>
>
>
> A.R. Brooks
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> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:06:05 -0400
> From: Bill Davidson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Arrival Date for First Slaves in Rockbridge Co.
>
> Rockbridge Co., VA was created in 1778 from portions of both
> Augusta Co.,
> VA and Botetourt Co., VA (and Botetourt itself had been created from a
> portion of Augusta Co., VA earlier). As such, the "first slaves in
> Rockbridge" had probably already been living in Augusta and/or
> Botetourt.
> Augusta was formed from Orange, Orange was formed from Spotsylvania,
> Spotsylvania was formed from parts of Essex, King William and King and
> Queen, etc., etc., back to the original "shires" in Virginia in the
> 1600s.
>
> You might find some information in the three volumes of the large
> Chalkey
> document that covers Augusta Co., VA:
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~chalkley/index.htm
>
> Also, the 1778 (inagural) Rockbridge tithe list is here:
> http://ftp.rootsweb.ancestry.com/pub/usgenweb/va/rockbridge/census/
> tith1778.txt
>
> Also, the 1783 Rockbridge personal property tax list is here (and
> this shows
> the number slaves, age 12 or above, in each household):
> http://ftp.rootsweb.ancestry.com/pub/usgenweb/va/rockbridge/census/
> tax1783.txt?cj=1&o_xid=0001027214&o_lid=0001027214
>
> Maybe the above will help.
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