Trivia - Thomas Jefferson invented a gizmo arm that is like todays tracing
machines - he could sign up to 6 copies by writing his name once.  There is
a picture of it in a bio I read on him some years ago - and some of the
early presidents also had carved stamps like our rubber stamps that could be
used by the secretary to sign the grants and warrants. 

 

 



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-------Original Message-------

 

From: Paul Drake

Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 4:18:44 PM

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: Genealogical Codicil to Last Will & Testament

 

Nope, many were signed by Secretaries or by a land office
administrator/official. Still though, no small number yet exist that were
actually signed by a President and bear the Great Seal of the United States.
There are a considerable number of those floating about on the market almost
weekly. Go to Google and type in "Land Grant President original". I have
owned several over the years, though none right now. As you state, what you
find in courthouse are almost always clerks' copies, and the original 
patents" were given to the new owner of the land.

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: dp

   To: 'Paul Drake' ; [log in to unmask]

   Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:55 PM

   Subject: RE: [VA-ROOTS] Genealogical Codicil to Last Will & Testament

 

 

   Were all these deeds and grants actually signed by the President? Or

   someone acting for them?

 

   I mean you copy a deed from the deed book in a county... That signature

   is not Thomas Jefferson or Patrick Henry... So do the original documents

   actually carry the seal and signature?

 

 

   Dianne in Ohio

 

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   From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history.

   [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Drake

   Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:43 PM

   To: [log in to unmask]

   Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] Genealogical Codicil to Last Will & Testament

 

   Excellent QUESTION, Bill and my point is illustrated for all. Notice

   your items and my notes after the asterisks:

 

     There are some things in the collection which I would ask you about

     regarding their worth. I have a War of 1812 bounty slip giving a

     relative the right to some land for his service during that war.

     *** Probably a warrant and maybe worth anywhere from $50 to 100.00 on

   Ebay and likely more in other markets.

     I

     also have several account pages from a department store in Alabama

     showing charges and payment for goods purchased by my great great

     grandmother back in 1850.

     *** Probably of very little, if any, value to other than to you.

 

      In addition I have copies of several deeds

     signed by Andrew Jackson,

     ***Might fetch as much as several hundred dollars, depending on what

   and where the documents involve.

 

      and other presidents from around the turn

     of the century 1700 to 1800.

     *** Almost any document with the signature of a President, especially

   of the 19th century, have substantial value. My James Madison land

   grant would fetch 300-450.00.

 

     .....

     Respectfully,

 

     Bill Woodard

     billwood @ mail.utexas.edu

 

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