Both of them from 23andme and both from famillytreedna
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On Jul 22, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Dusty Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> No you didn't respond. If you had a few moments I would love to know.
> Regards Dusty Smith
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> From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Keli
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 1:21 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Shelley Murphy
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> Hi did I respond to your question. When I switch from ipad to laptop, some
> get overlooked.
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jul 16, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Dusty Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Shelley - do you mind if I ask which tests you ordered from 23andme
>> and FTDNA? So you did both maternal and paternal?
>> Tks Dusty
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history.
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Shelley
>> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 7:51 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re:
>> Cnythia
>> McDaniel)
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>> I have used several with various family lines: FamilytreeDNA, African
>> Ancestry, National Genographic and 23andme. I am most happy with
>> 23andme and FamilytreeDNA. You are correct with 23and me I am 55.6%
>> European, 41% Sub saharan African, and .06% Asian/Native American, 1.9
>> unassigned. African Ancestry told me I did not have any African
>> ancestry (because they test only went back so far and connected to the
>> current tribes), my maternal line came from a European Female. They are
> probably correct on both counts.
>>
>>
>> Shelley Murphy, DM
>> aka "familytreegirl"
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>>
>> Know Your Roots They are Long and Strong!
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Linda Threadgill <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: VA-ROOTS <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 9:35 am
>> Subject: Re: DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re:
>> Cnythia
>> McDaniel)
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>> Anita,
>> Friends and family who have tested with AfricanAncestry were not
>> pleased with the results especially for the money paid and especially
>> if you have a significant amount of European ancestry. Some have
>> tested with African Ancestry first then had to go to other companies for
> more valid results.
>> Linda
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 9:47 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA testing for Native American heritage (was: re:
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>> Cnythia McDaniel)
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>> Another lab that can be helpful is Howard University, which has a
>> Genome Project. My brother tested there and the results came back 100%
>> Native American on our paternal side. He transferred his results to
>> FTDNA where I was tested in 2003. My results came back from FTDNA as
>> partially Native American 8% and African 5%, but 87% European. Which
>> was not surprising since that is what the Genealogy work I completed on my
> Maternal Lines showed.
>> Although Howard tests for African Ancestry, my brother and cousins
>> have tested as Native American and they provided them with
>> certificates of Native Ancestry. Again, you must do the work of
>> proving which tribe your ancestors come from. DNA is only one tool that
> can be used to prove your lines.
>>
>> Howard University Genome Project
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>> Anita Wills
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>> Mary and Patty Bowden Foundation
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>> Anita Talks Genealogy - Blog Talk Radio
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>> "If you believe people have no history worth mentioning, it's easy to
>> believe they have no humanity worth defending."
>> - William Loren Katz
>> June 18, 2009
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>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Linda Threadgill <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 12:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA testing for Native American heritage (was:
> re:
>>> Cnythia McDaniel)
>>>
>>>
>>> Dusty,
>>> My approach would be to first find out and understand exactly what
>>> each type of test will give you the information you are looking for.
>>> No DNA test is going to give you tribal information. Also, most tests
>>> are too general to give you any current or specific information and
>>> unless you can prove your tribal affiliation thru a genealogy path,
>>> it is my understanding that DNA info alone is not enough to be
>>> admitted into any tribe.
>>>
>>> Then consider the amount of NA who are doing DNA testing. At 23andMe
>>> there are very few. What I have seen is that there is a fear of
>>> testing because of the risk of being removed from the tribal rolls. I
>>> never suggest that anyone test to prove any ethnic connection.
>>> Usually when doing autosomal testing the percentage of NA genes that
>>> is shown is very low. This is due to several factors. One of which is
>>> recombination.
>>>
>>> Y and MTDNA testing is used to trace information or to connect people
>>> to a common ancestor. The ability to trace to a common ancestor
>>> changes depending on whether your surname is the same as the persons
>>> you match. MTDNA testing really doesn't help much to find a common
>>> ancestor because most people don't know the maiden names of their
>>> female ancestors and in some cases the common ancestor goes back
>>> thousands of years. Neither Y or MTDNA will cover all of your
>>> families lines so the benefit is minimal.
>>>
>>> If money is a consideration, 23andMe has the most bang for your buck.
>>> I am finding many will test with 23andMe and upload the raw data
>>> received from them to www.gedmatch.com for free. Folks who tested
>>> with FTDNA and Ancestry.com can also upload their information there.
>>> Another thing with 23andMe is that I think folks there are more apt
>>> to share information as compared to FTDNA. 23andMe has community
>>> forums where discussions of all types can be found. Also, 23andMe, if
>>> a tester is male, will do the Y, MTDNA and autosomal test for 1
>>> price. It will also narrow your Y and MTDNA haplogroups into what is
>>> called subclades without any additional testing..
>>> FTDNA will charge additional for these tests.
>>>
>>> I originally tested with FTDNA in 2005, with AncestryByDNA in 2006
>>> and 23andMe in 2010. Many of my family has tested and done both
>>> MTDNA, YDNA and autosomal testing. Most of my family are tri-racial and
> are part NA.
>>>
>>> One last thing, be very careful when deciding which projects to join
>>> at FTDNA if this becomes your choice for a testing company. I have
>>> seen some blogs, articles, etc that I question if the information
>>> contained was obtained by ethical means, especially when it comes to
>>> NA and Melungeon results. For a discussion on this, 23andMe is the
>>> forum where you will find information.
>>>
>>> Linda
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 8:38 AM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA testing for Native American heritage (was:
> re:
>>> Cnythia McDaniel)
>>>
>>> Dusty:
>>>
>>> 1. Start with the video animations
>>> <http://www.smgf.org/pages/animations.jspx> and know the differences
>>> among the types of DNA tests and what the purpose of each is.
>>>
>>> 2. Decide what question(s) you want answered about which ancestor(s).
>>>
>>> 3. Follow Roberta Estes's blog <http://dna-explained.com>. She has
>>> posted about every other day for the past year.
>>>
>>> 4. Get your 87-year-old male cousin tested by FamilyTreeDNA.com
>>> (FTDNA) for his and your late father's yDNA, even at the low
>>> 12-marker anthropological level. For genealogical results, at least
>>> 37 markers are needed. His cheek brushings specimen will be preserved
>>> for 25 years so that additional tests and upgrades can be ordered
>>> later. Become the _contact_ person for his results and the
>>> _beneficiary_ of his results at FTDNA. Or find another member of your
>>> family who is willing to take on that responsibility.
>>>
>>> 5. Obtain autosomal DNA testing on yourself at 23andMe.com or
>>> FamilyTreeDNA.com. If you obtain testing at 23andMe.com or another
>>> company, it is advisable to transfer your data (does not include the
>>> spit
>>> specimen) to FTDNA (for a fee) and to GEDmatch.com (free) to obtain
>>> additional matches. FTDNA is currently having a sale through part of
> July..
>>>
>>> 6. Join a DNA genealogy group in your local area or within your local
>>> genealogical society for information, discussion, and help.
>>>
>>> Or hire a professional genetic genealogist to make the testing
>>> decisions and interpret the results for you. One place to find such a
>>> person is at the Association for Professional Genealogists
>>> <www.apgen.org>. Another place is on the DNA blogs: _DNA eXplained_,
>>> _Your Genetic Genealogist_, _The Genetic Genealogist_, and _The Legal
> Genealogist_.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> --Ida Skarson McCormick, [log in to unmask], Seattle, Member of the
>>> Seattle Genealogical Society's DNA Interest Group
>>>
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>>> Dusty wrote:
>>> I have read most of what you referred me and am nonetheless very
>>> confused. I find it overwhelming.
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