Ancestor pride is all in one's point of view. I have two direct lines from my father's
side. One I nick-named Paupers to President because they left Europe poor and
later Eisenhower was born. The other I nick-named Sinners and Saints because
it contained pirates and preachers. My teenage son had knowledge of both of
these lines before I taught a history class he attended. He was sitting
next to a quiet, reserved girl while we were having a roundtable discussion.
When I asked the question, 'Does anybody know anything about their family
history?' this quiet girl blossomed before our eyes becoming animated as
she discussed how her mother was researching how part of their family had
been horse thieves but her uncle didn't agree. Everybody sat quietly listening
to Katie amazed at how she had transformed and my son sat there grinning.
When she was done he leaned over to her still grinning and said,
"Pirates beat horse thieves".
I had to laugh at his teenage, male choice of pirates. One's perspective changes
over the years and perhaps someday my son will choose a President over pirates
but given the subject matter at the time I think President Eisenhower might
have been over kill. Anyway, take pride in your heritage, good or bad. Learn
from the mistakes of the bad and follow the example of the good. Your
ancestors are a part of you. I'll be off to plunder some booty shortly, after
saying a prayer.
God bless you all,
Vicki
----- Original Message -----
From: Carole D. Bryant
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] DNA Evidence
MWF,
Weird and somewhat sadistic.
There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG with raising six fine sons and a crop of
tobacco, with being a fine upstanding moral citizen. That's all I know
about my folks, too, and I'm PLEASED. They were the "grass-roots" of our
country, fine, moral, God-fearing people. So be it, story or no story. I would
suggest you write fiction, if you're not happy with the truth.
Carole Dodson Bryant
In a message dated 8/19/2009 4:47:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Perhaps I am weird but I delight in finds of that nature. Sure makes
writing it all up more fun that saying he raised six fine sons and raised
tobacco, which is about all I know about many of mine!
MWF
-----Original Message-----
From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sally Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:22 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: DNA Evidence
We can trace my husband on paper back to one George Phillips, sea captain
on
the Pamunkey in Virginia in 1680. However, when my husband had his DNA
tested for a lark, he came back as a Fitzhugh. The definitive biography
of
William Fitzhugh the Immigrant back in the 1600s gives the information that
William Fitzhugh used one George Phillips as his sea captain to ship his
tobacco to London. The book includes several letters Fitzhugh wrote to
Phillips. It also explains that Fitzhugh enjoyed socializing with his sea
captains and their families.
We'll never be able to prove it, but it looks to us like William Fitzhugh
socialized just a little too closely with Mrs. George Phillips, possibly
while her husband was at sea with his tobacco! We would never have known
without the DNA test.
Sally Phillips
--- On Thu, 8/13/09, Al Adams <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Al Adams <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] Faris/Farris
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 11:12 AM
Trueman,
I believe that you will find that many who have had their DNA tested are in
the same situation.
There are a few in our DNA group who are Adams, and we all descend from
Robert Adams of Goochland, VA (c1685-1740). There are several identical
DNA
matches who descend from a Gilley in the early 1700's. We certainly have a
common ancestor about 1600- 1700. We don't know if we are all Adams or all
Gilley's.
There were many adoptions, children taken in by families and quite a few
accidental or not so accidental children.
One thing that I am pretty sure of, DNA does not believe in family lore.
Al Adams
-----Original Message-----
From: Tarter, Brent (LVA) [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:56 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [VA-ROOTS] Faris/Farris
Hello, all.
DNA has uncovered a similar situation with my ancestor, George M.
Faris/Farris, who according to Census reports was born about 1769 in
Virginia, county unknown. My DNA test matches that of no Farris listed to
date.
A lady has told me that her brother's DNA indicates that he is a Morris,.
Yet his DNA matches more than 30 of my markers. So am I a Farris or a
Morris?
HELP!
Trueman Farris [log in to unmask]
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