By WHOSE terminology ?
The South was NOT rebelling ! Just exercising their Constitutional rights
!
Carole
In a message dated 3/28/2011 1:56:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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The official name is War of the Rebellion.
Mike Peters
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Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:33:56
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Subject: War between the 'STATS'
Other historical terms - But whatever they wanted to call it - A CIVIL WAR
- it was not.
War Between the States
The term "War Between the States" was rarely used during the war but
became prevalent afterward in the South, as part of an effort to perpetuate its
interpretation of the war.
The Confederate government avoided the term "civil war" and referred in
official documents to the "War between the Confederate States of America and
the United States of America". There are a handful of known references
during the war to "the war between the states". European diplomacy produced a
similar formula for avoiding the phrase "civil war". Queen Victoria's
proclamation of British neutrality referred to "hostilities ... between the
Government of the United States of America and certain States styling
themselves the Confederate States of America".
After the war, the memoirs of former Confederate officials and veterans
(Joseph E. Johnston, Raphael Semmes, and especially Alexander Stephens)
commonly used the term "War Between the States". In 1898, the United Confederate
Veterans formally endorsed the name. In the early twentieth century, the
United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC) led a campaign to promote the term
"War Between the States" in the media and in public schools. UDC efforts
to convince the United States Congress to adopt the term, beginning in 1913,
were unsuccessful. Congress has never adopted an official name for the
war. The name "War Between the States" is inscribed on the USMC War Memorial
at Arlington National Cemetery. This name was personally ordered by Lemuel
C. Shepherd, Jr., the 20th Commandant of the Marine Corps.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt referred to the Civil War as "the four-year War
Between the States". References to the "War Between the States" appear
occasionally in federal and state court documents.
The names "Civil War" and "War Between the States" have been used jointly
in some formal contexts. For example, to mark the war's centenary in the
1960s, the state of Georgia created the "Georgia Civil War Centennial
Commission Commemorating the War Between the States". In 1994, the U.S. Postal
Service issued a series of commemorative stamps entitled "The Civil War / The
War Between the States".
War of the Rebellion
During and immediately after the war, U.S. officials and pro-Union writers
often referred to Confederates as "Rebels". The earliest histories
published in the northern states commonly refer to the Civil War as "the Great
Rebellion" or "the War of the Rebellion, as do many war monuments.
The official war records of the United States refer to this war as "The
War of the Rebellion", and are a chief source of historical documentation for
those interested in Civil War research. They are compiled as a 127-volume
collection published by the U.S. War Department under the title The War of
the Rebellion: a Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and
Confederate Armies, U.S. Government Printing Office, 1880-1901, referred to as
the Official Records.
War of Secession
War of Secession is occasionally used by people in the South to refer to
the Civil War. In most romance languages, the words used to refer literally
translate to "War of Secession" (e.g. "Guerre de Sécession" in French,
"Guerra de Secesión" in Spanish). This name is also used in Central and Eastern
Europe, i.e. "Sezessionskrieg" is commonly used in Germany, and "Wojna
Secesyjna" is exclusively used in Poland (both literally translate as "war of
secession").
War for Southern Independence
The "War for Southern Independence" is a name used by many Southerners in
reference to the war. While popular on the Confederate side during the
war, the term's popularity fell in the immediate aftermath of the South's
failure to gain independence. The term resurfaced in the late 20th century.
This terminology aims to parallel usage of the term "American War for
Independence." A popular poem published in the early stages of hostilities was
"South Carolina". Its prologue referred to the war as the "Third War for
Independence" (it named the War of 1812 as the second such war.) On November 8,
1860, the Charleston Mercury, a contemporary southern newspaper, stated
that "The tea has been thrown overboard. The Revolution of 1860 has been
initiated."
War for the Union
Some northerners used "The War for the Union", the title of both a
December 1861 lecture by the abolitionist leader Wendell Phillips, and a major
four-volume history by Allan Nevins published in the middle of the 20th
century.
Second American Revolution
In the 1920's historian Charles Beard used the term the "Second American
Revolution" to emphasize the changes brought on by the Northern victory.
This is still used by the Sons of Confederate Veterans organization, though
with the intent to demonstrate the depth of the South's cause.
War of Northern Aggression
The "War of Northern Aggression" has been used by those who maintain that
the Union side was the belligerent party in the war.
War of Southern Aggression
The "War of Southern Aggression," conversely, has been used by those who
maintain that the South was the belligerent party.
From: Carole D. Bryant
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:44 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] War between the 'STATS'
Same here in Southern Maryland !!
Mama said, "It was NOT a 'civil' war!" !!
In a message dated 3/28/2011 12:42:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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I am a life long Tennessean and many in my family were in the CSA. In
fact
my great Grandmother told me, when she was in her eighties, that she
didn't
know "damyankee" was two words until she was grown. Likewise until I was
grown I had never heard the phrase"War of the Rebellion". It was always
called The War between the States (having upgraded from the War of
Northern
Aggression). One of my older relatives called it the "Recent
Unpleasantness"
up into the early 20th century. My own mother warned me not to call it
the
Civil War. As you can see feelings ran pretty strong down here!
Brenta Davis
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From: robert yingst
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 7:41 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] War between the 'STATS'
It was also called the War of Rebellion before that became politically
incorrect to use.
On Mar 27, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Fern wrote:
> This is especially interesting for families like mine who had as many
> soldiers in the CSA
> as they had on the UNION side.
>
> The War Between the Stats. Yes, that's stats, not states.
>
> Historians and statisticians are questioning the statistics of
> Confederate War dead. Official military records compiled in 1866
> counted 40,275 North Carolina soldiers who died in uniform.
> Reportedly, North Carolina had more men die in uniform than any other
> Confederate state, although not as many as New York in the Union. Now
> new investigations seem to show the 1866 claims, made when records
> were spotty, are highly inaccurate.
>
> While the new counts are not yet complete, it looks like the true
> count will be about 31,000 deaths of North Carolina soldiers during
> the war. Meanwhile, a separate count iis being made of Virginia
> soldiers and it looks like its final tally will also be about 31,000,
> far higher than previous reports.
>
> "It's going to be close," says Virginia librarian Edwin Ray, the man
> making the count of Virginia deaths in uniform.
>
> The issue tends to be emotional in the affected states which have
> pride in their soldiers who died for the losing cause. Whatever the
> final count, many people will have difficulty believing it.
>
> New York reported the most deaths of any state: 46,534, according to
> the 1866 federal report.
>
> You can read more in an article by Cameron McWhirter in the Wall
> Street Journal at http://goo.gl/usb0U If this link does not work -
try
> this one:
>
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704662604576202823930087328.ht
ml?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond
>
> Another interesting fact is that Cameron McWhirter had family fighting
> for the CSA
> and this family member was a 'friend' of my distant cousin General Abe
> Buford
> who rode with General Forrest -CSA..
>
>
>
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