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Craig Kilby <[log in to unmask]>
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Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history." <[log in to unmask]>
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Yes, that's the Joel Brown I was talking and the link was written by me way back in 1999. He had nine children named in the Clark v Towles chancery suit in Madison County. One of them was Armistead Brown who built LaGrange. His other SONS were John T., Coleman (yes, yet another Coleman), William and Joel Thomas Brown. I'm sorry I don't anything on further offspring other than the children of Armistead Brown.

In the post that you linked to, I referenced the deed to Joel Brown from Robert Kilgour, son and heir of William Kilgour of St. Mary's County, Maryland, who had purchased it from George Noe, also of Maryland. It was Noe who had purchased some of the original Kilby grant from the sons of John Kilby (d 1772) which takes us straight back to the patent to John Kilby--and NOT "John Brown" as *Historic Culpeper" would have us believe.
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My initial curiousity with the Browns preceded the land title work. It began with one of John Kilby, Sr., grandsons who was Henry Kily and who married Susannah BROWN in Culpeper on 2 Feb 1825 (bond). Although this couple eight children, not one of them ever married and Susannah Brown Kilby's unsuccessful pension application for her husband's service in the War of 1812 (which she could never prove) mentions that several of her children were "afflicted." This led me to wonder if there was some of genetic problem, perhaps due to intermarriage. 

That idea led me nowhere, except I did learn that Susannah had a brother William H. Brown who was living in Page Co., VA in 1833 as referenced in a deed:

Culpeper County, VA DB ZZ/337, dated 27 SEP 1833, William H. Brown of Page County, VA to Henry Kilby, all the right, title & interest "in estate now in possession of Susannah Brown wife of Thomas Brown of which I am representative."

Now you can take from that what you will. There is enough room for interpretation there to drive a wagon train through. I seem to have concluded that Joel Brown was another brother of Susannah Brown, and that all three of them were children of Thomas & Susannah Brown. but other than this deed, I really have no evidence for such an assertion. (Which is why I don't share my genealogical files with the public where it would become instant "fact.") Looking back on this from all these years, I now wonder how WIlliam H.Brown was the representative of Thomas Brown. Maybe you've done more work on this "Group 10" that would shore it up. You mention a first wife for Thomas Brown as Susan Powell, and we seem to be heading in parallel tracks here. So, for what it's worth, that's some more information.

Craig

On Jul 9, 2014, at 11:24 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote:

> Craig,
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> Is this the Joel Brown to whom you referred?
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> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/VACULPEP/1999-08/0934854065 
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> His father MIGHT have been the Thomas Brown of DNA "Group 10" (a son of John and Elizabeth (Brown) Brown) who married first to a Susan Powell and second to a Sarah.  We would love to find a male Brown from this line who would take the Y chromosome DNA test....especially since Garfield Brown of the unrelated DNA "Group 47" also fathered a son who was named Thomas.
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> Thanks,
> 
> Bill Davidson
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