The proper term is "The Late Unpleasantness"
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From: "Warrenwolff" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: War between the 'STATS'
We were taught "The War for Southern Independence".
W.
Other historical terms - But whatever they wanted to call it - A CIVIL WAR -
it
was not.
War Between the States
The term "War Between the States" was rarely used during the war but became
prevalent afterward in the South, as part of an effort to perpetuate its
interpretation of the war.
The Confederate government avoided the term "civil war" and referred in
official
documents to the "War between the Confederate States of America and the
United
States of America". There are a handful of known references during the war
to
"the war between the states". European diplomacy produced a similar formula
for
avoiding the phrase "civil war". Queen Victoria's proclamation of British
neutrality referred to "hostilities ... between the Government of the United
States of America and certain States styling themselves the Confederate
States
of America".
After the war, the memoirs of former Confederate officials and veterans
(Joseph
E. Johnston, Raphael Semmes, and especially Alexander Stephens) commonly
used
the term "War Between the States". In 1898, the United Confederate Veterans
formally endorsed the name. In the early twentieth century, the United
Daughters
of the Confederacy (UDC) led a campaign to promote the term "War Between the
States" in the media and in public schools. UDC efforts to convince the
United
States Congress to adopt the term, beginning in 1913, were unsuccessful.
Congress has never adopted an official name for the war. The name "War
Between
the States" is inscribed on the USMC War Memorial at Arlington National
Cemetery. This name was personally ordered by Lemuel C. Shepherd, Jr., the
20th
Commandant of the Marine Corps.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt referred to the Civil War as "the four-year War
Between the States". References to the "War Between the States" appear
occasionally in federal and state court documents.
The names "Civil War" and "War Between the States" have been used jointly in
some formal contexts. For example, to mark the war's centenary in the 1960s,
the
state of Georgia created the "Georgia Civil War Centennial Commission
Commemorating the War Between the States". In 1994, the U.S. Postal Service
issued a series of commemorative stamps entitled "The Civil War / The War
Between the States".
War of the Rebellion
During and immediately after the war, U.S. officials and pro-Union writers
often
referred to Confederates as "Rebels". The earliest histories published in
the
northern states commonly refer to the Civil War as "the Great Rebellion" or
"the
War of the Rebellion, as do many war monuments.
The official war records of the United States refer to this war as "The War
of
the Rebellion", and are a chief source of historical documentation for those
interested in Civil War research. They are compiled as a 127-volume
collection
published by the U.S. War Department under the title The War of the
Rebellion: a
Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies,
U.S.
Government Printing Office, 1880-1901, referred to as the Official Records.
War of Secession
War of Secession is occasionally used by people in the South to refer to the
Civil War. In most romance languages, the words used to refer literally
translate to "War of Secession" (e.g. "Guerre de Sécession" in French,
"Guerra
de Secesión" in Spanish). This name is also used in Central and Eastern
Europe,
i.e. "Sezessionskrieg" is commonly used in Germany, and "Wojna Secesyjna" is
exclusively used in Poland (both literally translate as "war of secession").
War for Southern Independence
The "War for Southern Independence" is a name used by many Southerners in
reference to the war. While popular on the Confederate side during the war,
the
term's popularity fell in the immediate aftermath of the South's failure to
gain
independence. The term resurfaced in the late 20th century. This terminology
aims to parallel usage of the term "American War for Independence." A
popular
poem published in the early stages of hostilities was "South Carolina". Its
prologue referred to the war as the "Third War for Independence" (it named
the
War of 1812 as the second such war.) On November 8, 1860, the Charleston
Mercury, a contemporary southern newspaper, stated that "The tea has been
thrown
overboard. The Revolution of 1860 has been initiated."
War for the Union
Some northerners used "The War for the Union", the title of both a December
1861
lecture by the abolitionist leader Wendell Phillips, and a major four-volume
history by Allan Nevins published in the middle of the 20th century.
Second American Revolution
In the 1920's historian Charles Beard used the term the "Second American
Revolution" to emphasize the changes brought on by the Northern victory.
This is
still used by the Sons of Confederate Veterans organization, though with the
intent to demonstrate the depth of the South's cause.
War of Northern Aggression
The "War of Northern Aggression" has been used by those who maintain that
the
Union side was the belligerent party in the war.
War of Southern Aggression
The "War of Southern Aggression," conversely, has been used by those who
maintain that the South was the belligerent party.
From: Carole D. Bryant
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:44 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] War between the 'STATS'
Same here in Southern Maryland !!
Mama said, "It was NOT a 'civil' war!" !!
I am a life long Tennessean and many in my family were in the CSA. In
fact
my great Grandmother told me, when she was in her eighties, that she
didn't know "damyankee" was two words until she was grown. Likewise until
I was
grown I had never heard the phrase"War of the Rebellion". It was always
called The War between the States (having upgraded from the War of
Northern Aggression). One of my older relatives called it the "Recent
Unpleasantness" up into the early 20th century. My own mother warned me
not to call it the
Civil War. As you can see feelings ran pretty strong down here!
Brenta Davis
It was also called the War of Rebellion before that became politically
incorrect to use.
On Mar 27, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Fern wrote:
> This is especially interesting for families like mine who had as many
> soldiers in the CSA
> as they had on the UNION side.
>
> The War Between the Stats. Yes, that's stats, not states.
>
> Historians and statisticians are questioning the statistics of
> Confederate War dead. Official military records compiled in 1866
> counted 40,275 North Carolina soldiers who died in uniform.
> Reportedly, North Carolina had more men die in uniform than any other
> Confederate state, although not as many as New York in the Union. Now
> new investigations seem to show the 1866 claims, made when records
> were spotty, are highly inaccurate.
>
> While the new counts are not yet complete, it looks like the true
> count will be about 31,000 deaths of North Carolina soldiers during
> the war. Meanwhile, a separate count iis being made of Virginia
> soldiers and it looks like its final tally will also be about 31,000,
> far higher than previous reports.
>
> "It's going to be close," says Virginia librarian Edwin Ray, the man
> making the count of Virginia deaths in uniform.
>
> The issue tends to be emotional in the affected states which have
> pride in their soldiers who died for the losing cause. Whatever the
> final count, many people will have difficulty believing it.
>
> New York reported the most deaths of any state: 46,534, according to
> the 1866 federal report.
>
> You can read more in an article by Cameron McWhirter in the Wall
> Street Journal at http://goo.gl/usb0U If this link does not work -
try
> this one:
>
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704662604576202823930087328.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond
>
> Another interesting fact is that Cameron McWhirter had family fighting
> for the CSA > and this family member was a 'friend' of my distant
cousin General Abe
> Buford > who rode with General Forrest -CSA..
>
>
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