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Maylene Clearwater <[log in to unmask]>
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Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history." <[log in to unmask]>
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I have had several successful corrections on info found on the net.   
Examples:
1) I was desperately searching for any scrap of info on an ancestor and low 
 and behold there on the net was a source for me to go get a copy of.  
Unfortunately, after ordering it through interlibrary loan, it was not on the  
page stated. So I contacted the Ancestry.com Tree contact and his  reply:
 
    "I apologize. I entered the wrong cite. Here  is the right one." And it 
was.
 
2) When I was a newbie an online ancestry.com contact gave me the best  
advice I ever got. Verify, Verify, Verify. He had been doing this some 28 years 
 and most of his info was impecable for that reason. Then one day I ran 
across a  source doc that disproved our connection. I was unhappy of course, 
that he was  not family. But in the meantime I had made a great friend. So I 
emailed and he  immediately checked it out and corrected his tree, as I did 
mine. The George  Reid we thought connected us with daughter Phebe age 24 
1850 census was actually  not my Phebe Reid age 24 1850 Census. As it so 
happens George was my  Phebe's uncle and he named his daughter Phebe also. There 
were a gazzillion  Phebe's in this family. In 1860 one was in IL the other in 
MO with her  husband and children on the 1860 Censuses, So mistakes happen.
 
    Me, I type 60 mistakes a minute !!! and although I  try to proof read 
as well as I can, and Family tree maker alerts me when I put  people in 100 
years off, one or 2 things have slipped through. People have  contacted me 
and when I  do that and I am always happy to make corrections  with common 
sense such as the 100 year mistake. Or with source  docs for any other oops!
 
    My problem with Ancestry.com's  current combined trees without my 
permission or even knowledge with other  contributors' trees contribute to some 
of that "inextricably mixed" lines  that don't belong together. So I went to 
Rootsweb.com where my tree stays my  tree. Well, it did. I am concerned 
lately, as I see some signs it  is getting more and more like ancestry. Don't 
get me wrong. I love  Ancestry.com for it's source docs. But the trees are 
there, for me  anyway, only for clues. I have done my share of time in dusty  
courthouses, State Libraries, and gen soc & in front of microfilm. But  it 
certainly helps to know what state at least, and hopefully, which county  to 
begin the search.  
 
VERIFY VERIFY VERIFY.
 
Maylene
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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Lou I  couldn't agree more - The internet is like a huge magnet, enticing 
stupid  people to do stupid things.  Facebook and all the other social 
networks  that are readily available is an excellent example.  Many years ago I  
tried my darnedest to get all the miss-information about various family  
surnames either changed or taken off Ancestry and the LDS site.  Of more  than a 
couple a dozen emails I sent out to the addresses that were available  only 
one bothered to reply and that knuckle Head just said "Who the H__  cares." 
 With that kind of mind set there isn't much one can do except to  avoid 
the donated material all together.  I have been following this  discussion 
since it started and as yet I haven't read one person say they have  had a 
totally acceptable experience.  Some were willing to take the  information as is 
so they could check it out - HELLO - wouldn't it be better  to do your own 
research?  
At least you would know what information  was REALLY questionable.  

So much information has been loaded  onto the internet in the past few 
years a person might think he or she can go  all the way back to Adam and Eve 
with no problem at all.  But it is so  much more fun to get a little dirty and 
dusty and visit some musty old Court  Houses - Libraries - Historical 
Societies and tramp through a few  cemeteries(don't forget your digital).  You 
wont find everything sitting  on your butt all day in front of your computer.

Have a good one  guys,  Fern
www.bufordfamilies.com
From: Lou Poole  
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:32 AM
To:  [log in to unmask] 
Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] reliable  sources


I have been following this discussion closely, and  though I have quite
a number of comments I could make, I'll confine  myself to the one
overriding question I'd like an answer for, or  to...

Why does someone post family information, usually asserted  as truth by
omission of any discussion or caveats, when they do not  know it to be
reasonably correct?

In the past when  I've encountered such incorrect information I've
thought I was doing  the person who posted the information, and the
people who might  encounter it, a favor by trying to contact them with
a reasoned,  factual rebuttal and/or correction that includes primary
source  documentation.  My experience:

1) about half the time I can  find no way to contact the person who
posted the  information

2) about half the time that I can find a contact  address, I get no
response when I attempt to contact  them

3) about half the time that I do get a response, the  response comes
across as somewhere between disbelief and outrage  that I should even
be questioning the incorrect data.

4) and finally, about half the time I do get a chance to make my  case,
it is ignored, with no explanation as to why.

(and bless the remaining less than 10% of the people who post, who  do
respond, and who are willing to discuss the issue(s) with an open  and
objective mind.)

So, again, I ask why do people  feel compelled to post information if
they want no feed-back, no  discussion, no corrections, or even the
opportunity to correct my  interpretation if I'm wrong?  Am I wrong if
I tentatively  conclude that such postings have nothing to do with
genealogy and  everything to do with ego on the part of the poster?

Lou  Poole

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