To my fellow genealogy email Listers: personally I think DNA in regards to genealogy is irrelevant.  I know this might create a storm; but while your blue eyes may be in the genes, your history isn't.  It is in the people who cared for you and who relayed stories of your "ancestors", blood or culture.
 
It might help with these 2 Pocahontas lines of "mine" in that it will show Asian genes and a more narrowed focus to my research, or not, and it would save a little time; but it doesn't really show the family lines or who the people are, just that someone back there might be ... whatever.
 
I started doing my family history when I was about 4 and asked my father's uncle about his mother for whom I was named.  I've continued, I listen to stories, I write things down; I have fine memories of the microfische readers at the old Virginia State library in Richmond.  But if tomorrow a letter appeared in my mother's estate that said she had found me on the doorstep, I would still have memories of her as my mother and I'd still be named for my paternal great-grandmother.  I do not come from a culture that has an intense religious connection to the actual ancestry of individuals, I was tickled when I learned of this possible Matta-Po-Ni connection, I love to hear my daughter sing the Disney music with personal pride when we drive over the Chickahominy River outside Richmond - but none of this distracts me from still wanting to dig up and read the documents that actually name people in my line, who played a part in bringing together this
 wonderful country in which I am so fortunate to be nor does it make me want to discover what I consider very vague defining lines of my gene pool.  I am not criticising those of you driven to have the info.  But to me, it is not as important as reading the old documents and looking at the old photographs that document my trail.
 
Katie Holland
born in Portsmouth, VA to Norfolk parents
raised in Va Beach and educated in Richmond
but married to a Marylander and happy to be alive.


--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Barry <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: Barry <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [POCAHONTAS] my alleged Pocahontas ancestry
To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask]
Cc: "BarryCast" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 3:34 PM

Marlene DNA requires NO blood!!! Simply scrape the inside of your mouth 
cheeck then do a confirmation scrape next morning , then sh ship it off in 
the provided package! I believe a sample CAN be tested for $100, though the 
true minimum useful is $!50. Get the $100 and we'll dig up the rest! Call
me 
and I' ll arange.
    Barry

C  Barry Wetherington
PO Box 1208
Birmingham MIch 48012
248-563-2577 cel
1-832-550-1424 Fax
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marlene Creech" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>; <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [POCAHONTAS] my alleged Pocahontas ancestry


Hello List:

I haven't been on for  quite a while. My interest in Pocahontas is due
to the fact it is one of my husband's lines.
The common names such as John, and Mary and Jane and all the others
tend to make you want to put up your hands and surrender.
I have one German line that takes the cake.  Hans Adam, Adam, Hans
Johann, Johannes, John, Eva Barbara, Barbara  Maria, etc.

On a couple of occasions  I have tried to work the Pocahontas line  all
back to hubby, but my eyes tear up.
His line goes back to the Bowlings, Bollings, etc.  I think about 6-7
generations back is where the Bowling is picked up. I am researching
all
my lines and my hubby's so when I get  annoyed, I work on another line.

DO AS I DO HANG IN THERE AND KEEP WORKING.  I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR
MY SON TO HAVE HIS DNA
CHECKED.  MY HUBBY HAD SO MUCH BLOOD DRAWN, HE COULD HAVE DONE IT.  TOO
LATE NOW!

MARLENE
On Jul 28, 2008, at 9:09 AM, Katie Holland wrote:

> I have the exact "allegation" in my line. But it came after I
> contacted a Rawlings "relative in the Brunswick County genealogy
List,
> not from family hisory. My maternal grandmother's maternal
> grandmother has Burton and Rawlings lines through Prince George County
> (VA). I am told Burton and Rawlings are two surnames that make that
> link but I have no idea how to make the connection as things get a bit
> blurry when you are dealing with common first ames like "John".
>
> If anyone has any suggestions I am open to them.
>
> Katie Holland
>
>
> --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Barry <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> From: Barry <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [POCAHONTAS] my alleged Pocahontas ancestry
> To: "Poca-L" <[log in to unmask]>,
[log in to unmask]
> Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 2:29 AM
>
> Mary,
> If you didnt, pls send this msg to Poca-L
>
>     Barry
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: [log in to unmask]
>   To: Barry Wetherington
>   Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:18 AM
>   Subject: my alleged Pocahontas ancestry
>
>
>   Hi Barry-
>
>   You perhaps remember that my family has the story that we are
> descended from
> Pocahontas through Phebe ROLF VanORMAN, most likely the daughter of
> Mary
> DICKERSON (~1770–1844) and William W. ROLFE (~1769–1838). One of
> William's sons has this same family history in his line.
>
>   One of my sons recently had DNA testing done (something his company
> was
> offering its employees) and the results show that a small fraction of
> his
> genetic material indicates Asian ancestry (Native American being
> grouped with
> Asian).
>
>   My husband's ancestry is Austrian, Irish (perhaps ultimately going
> back
> to England or France), with a little Swedish -- all branches going
> back to the
> Old World in one or two generations. It seems unlikely he had any
> Asian or
> Native American ancestors.
>
>   My father's parents were Jewish, born in the Ukraine, so closer to
> Asia,
> but it is extremely unlikely any of their ancestors would have married
> gentiles.
>
>   My maternal grandmother's line is all German, going back to the Old
> World
> in one or two generations.
>
>   And we certainly haven't found any suggestion of
Asian/NativeAmerican
> ancestors in my maternal grandfather's lines (many of which go back to
> the
> 1600s in this country) other than this family story of descent from
> Pocahontas
> through my GGGgrandmother Phebe Rolf.
>
>   So one interpretation is that our family story just might be true –
> despite
> the lack of firm evidence that Pocahontas's son Thomas had any
> descendants
> other than the accepted Bolling line.
>
>   This might be of interest to others who have a family history of
> descent from
> Pocahontas through a Rolf/Rolfe/Relf ancestor.
>
>   -Mary Tim Baggott
>
>


      

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