Jim -

I have based my statements on a huge difference in haplogroups!
1. Col. John Starke descendants - haplogroup 'G'
    Thomas Starke descendants - haplogroup 
R1b1 13 24 14 10 12 15 13 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 18

2. Jeremiah York - haplogroup 'R1b1'

    Captain William York - haplogroup 

J2 12 23 14 11 13 15 11 17 11 13 11 30 15 9 9 11 11 29 14 20 29 13 14 16 17

I do NOT think I have jumped to any conclusions!!

I also stated that the most logical possibility was that their mothers were widows who married into the family, or orphans who were taken in by another family. I doubt we will ever know the connection, however I do know that blood does not lie, and different haplogroups (very different) are a sure sign that we are not descended 'by blood' from the other family... I am searching for 'blood' ancestors... and I have simply stopped with the only shaky link.

Diane S

----- Original Message ----- 


  ladies and gentlemen

  I've been following this thread and remain 
  chagrined.  Unless you perform 67 allele testing,
  and certain SNP tests, you will not know if you 
  are, or are not, part of the family with which
  you harbor a history.

  As an example - my 67 allele test shows a close
  match between my family and the Bowles family.
  However, after contacting an expert geneticist we 
  discovered that we had a common ancestor,in
  Iberian Peninsula, roughly 800 years ago.  To be
  clear, we had EXACT DNA matches at 12,25, and 37
  Allele testing.

  Now, in light of the foregoing, do not rule out
  the possibility of a common ancestor many 
  centuries earlier or an adoption - adoptions
  without paperwork happened all the time -
  especially with sea-going families who possessed
  an infant.  If you find a complete mismatch in
  the haplotypes of Y-DNA then do not rule out the
  notion of an adoption or a common ancestor within
  the last 1,000 yearas.  Many adults have the
  strength of character not to tell their adopted
  kids that they were adopted as infants - and they
  stuck to it.

  Don't be so quick to jettison a rich heritage just
  because an emerging scientific discipline provides
  a fact that is contrary to your years of 
  genealogical research.  The discipline of DNA
  research and analysis is still young; there is
  much that we do not yet know.

  Jim

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