Hi Anita...I neglected to mention that I have done MTDNA testing as well. I
have tested with 3 different DNA testing companies and have had my autosomal
results analyzed by DNA tribes as well as Dr McDonald. One thing that a
person gets from 23andMe is MTDNA, Y DNA results along with autosomal test
results at no additional cost, but I did my MTDNA testing in 2005 with
FTDNA. I have also transferred by autosomal results from 23andMe to FTDNA.
I have been blessed to have several members of my immediate family along
with 1st -3rd cousins do various types of DNA testing. It is because of this
that I know the haplogroups for my maternal maternal family line as well as
my maternal paternal family the McKenzies who trace to Richard Cantrell who
migrated to the Philly area from England. On the paternal side, I have STR
info as well as autosomal info on both my paternal paternal as well as my
paternal maternal line. So far I have about 20-30 family members who have
tested. Along with that and before I did DNA testing I had been doing
genealogical research for about 15 years.
I totally agree that a person should not do DNA testing before putting in
the time to do genealogy.
Linda
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From: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:11 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] Henrico County Court Minute Book September Court
1740 page 124 or 24 ?
Linda,
I hope this is not too confusing to some of those who are considering taking
a DNA Test. I found it very useful for my research, but I still had to do
the footwork and make my own connections. The best part is communicating
with my DNA Cousins who are scattered all over Europe (and even Australia).
Here are the results of my test:
The last test I took was a mtHVR2 to Mega.
mtDNA Full Genomic Sequence: The mtDNA Full Sequence test is the preferred
test for understanding the genealogy, historic,
and ancient ancestry of your direct maternal line. By testing the full
mitochondrial genome, you will be placed in one of hundreds of mtDNA
haplogroup subclades according to current published peer reviewed
literature. Each subclade has a unique migration history that traces
from ancient times through more recent historic events.
For genealogical research, you are assured of ruling out lineage
mismatches for paper trail comparisons. You will also achieve the
highest level of confidence possible that your mtDNA full sequence
matches are related to you within the genealogical time frame.
My Haplogroup is -
T2b4f
The mitochondrial haplogroup T is best characterized as a
European lineage. With an origin in the Near East greater than 45,000
years ago, the major sub-lineages of haplogroup T entered Europe around
the time of the Neolithic 10,000 years ago. Once in Europe, these
sub-lineages underwent a dramatic expansion associated with the arrival
of agriculture in Europe. Haplogroup T2 is one of the older
sub-lineages and may have been present in Europe as early as the Late Upper
Palaeolithic.
Autosomal testing would not show as much as the mega testing on FTDNA.
Although I believe my brother had a Autosomal testing which would show
matches on our maternal and paternal lines. On our paternal side the results
were 100% Native from Columbia South America. By the time I took my DNA Test
I had traced my Virginia ancestors to Britain (Wales), and the test
confirmed my findings. I have communicated with DNA Cousins from the US and
Europe some of whom filled in gaps. I have also communicated with close DNA
Cousins here in the US, who are also related through Lewis and allied lines.
Autosomal DNA tests utilize DNA from the 22 pairs of autosomal
chromosomes. Autosomal DNA is inherited from both of our parents.
Therefore, an autosomal DNA test may be taken by either a male or a
female.
Autosomal DNA Inheritance
1
2
3
Father's Father
Father
Father's Mother
You
Mother's Father
Mother
Mother's Mother
Short tandem repeat (STR) markers on the autosomal chromosomes have
been used in academic population genetics studies and for extended
forensic and siblingship studies. The current number of STR markers
offered is not intended for genealogical studies but may be interesting
to those who enjoy following the scientific literature with their own
results.
"If you believe people have no history worth mentioning, it's easy to
believe they have no humanity worth defending."
— William Loren Katz
June 18, 2009
On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 4:54 AM, "[log in to unmask]"
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Forgot to mention that the Lewis lines trace back to Monmouthshire and
Breconshire Wales.
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>Yes I have had my maternal line testing from Family Tree DNA. Some of my
>family surnames are Lewis, Randolph, Monroe, Stith, Cox, Evans, Bowden,
>Hilliard, Monroe, Washington, Warner, Jackson, Pinn, and Tapscotts. My
>maternal ancestors are the Lewis which include Elizabeth Lewis Warner,
>whose daughter Mildred married Lawrence Washington, George Washington's
>Grandfather.
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>>The last time I was in Virginia a meeting was arranged with the Monroe
>>Foundation, but I had to cancel. I have been in touch with many of the
>>descendants, and am a member of the DAR through my ancestor, Charles
>>Lewis.
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>>On Monday, January 13, 2014 12:28 PM, Linda Threadgill
>><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>Anita...I was just wondering if you have done DNA testing? Normally, I
>>>wouldn't have read this query, but yesterday I found that one of my
>>>family
>>>members is a DNA match to a Hilliard. If you haven't tested, you may want
>>>to
>>>do so. It may make your search a little easier. I also have the Monro
>>>surname in my family and I know that the European Stith family
>>>intermarried
>>>with the Jeffersons, Washingtons, Randolphs, Lee, Bollings, etc. It has
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>>>do with location and the earliest VA families regardless of ethnicity.
>>>Making connections thru DNA makes genealogy research a little easier
>>>especially if you trace your family to colonial VA or to one of
>>>Virginia's
>>>first families.
>>>Linda Stith Threadgill
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [log in to unmask]
>>>Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 8:12 PM
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: [VA-ROOTS] Henrico County Court Minute Book September Court
>>>1740 page 124 or 24 ?
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>>>The following information is a continuation of the research into my
>>>ancestral lines in Colonial Virginia. It was sent to me recently and
>>>there
>>>is a lot of information pertinent to my research. One of my distant
>>>ancestors, Lydia Hilliard, a white woman, was a servant of St. John
>>>Shropshire. She was accused of having a child with a negro man and
>>>received
>>>punishment for her indiscretion.
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>>>My first book, Notes and Documents of Free Persons of Color, was recently
>>>revised and included Lydia Hilliard. She was actually the Grandmother of
>>>my
>>>ancestor, Mary Bowden, through Lydia, "Mulatto" Child Mary Monroe. After
>>>leaving the household of Shropshire, Lydia moved into the household of
>>>William Monroe Senior (Grandfather of President James Monroe); in a cruel
>>>twist of fate, Lydia's daughter Mary and William Monroe Seniors son,
>>>William
>>>Junior, entered into a marriage. They were the parents of my ancestor,
>>>Mary
>>>Bowden. Like her mother, Mary was taken to court and accused of bastardy,
>>>but the charges were dropped. The Courts decided that Mary was basically
>>>in
>>>a catch-22 situation. The judge found that Mary had not known the law and
>>>believed she was in a legal marriage. The courts made no mention of
>>>William
>>>Monroe Senior, but the child, Mary Bowden was sent to live with the
>>>Chiltons
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>>>indenture was assigned to Augustine Washington Senior, and she went to
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>>>at George Washington Birthplace. So there is more to this story then the
>>>following, but I thought this would be something the list could discuss.
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>>>Anita Wills
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>>>St. John Shropshire, born May 13, 1663 in Marlborough, Wiltshire, Eng;
>>>died November 16, 1718 in Westmoreland Co., VA. He was the son of 352.
>>>Oliver Shropshire and 353. Elizabeth Ring. He married 177. Elizabeth
>>>Winkfield. St. John Shropshire graduated from Oxford University. St.
>>>John was ordained at the Anglican Church at Winchester Cathedral in
>>>1692. A few years after his graduation he was sent to Virginia by the
>>>Church of England, and is the only clergyman by that name who is
>>>mentioned in Goodwin's "Colonial Church in America." He, his wife, and
>>>their two sons immigrated during or before 1694 to Gloucester Co, VA and
>>>later moved to Westmoreland Co VA. Notes: Elizabeth Winkfield:
>>>Elizabeth wrote a will dated 14 Apr 1738 and proved 1 Dec 1742:
>>>"...sound of mind but very weak of body ... whole estate to be divided
>>>equally between my two sons St. John Shropshire and Winkfield
>>>Shropshire." Wits: Roderick McCullock, Robert Sanford (Westmoreland Co
>>>VA). At the time of her death her name was Elizabeth Stonehouse.
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>>>Daniel Field asked to pay out of William Bennett's estate 30 September
>>>1703, Westmoreland County, Virginia. "Judgment is granted Lydia Hilliard
>>>against Danll. Field as trustee to the estate of Wm. Bennett for 480
>>>pounds of tobacco, balance of an account."
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>>>28 March 1705
>>>It is ordered that the Sheriff doe summon St. John Shripshire, Clerk,
>>>that he appear at the next court to answer the complaint of Lydia
>>>Hilliard his servant relating to her bad usage.
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>>>On April 25, 1705 Lydia Hilliard, a white woman servant to the Rev. St.
>>>John Shropshire, Clerk, Minister of Washington Parish, "being convicted
>>>of fornication with a Negro man, ordered she receive corporal
>>>punishment according to law for her offense unless her master or some
>>>other person on her behalf doe pay the fine of five hundred pounds of
>>>tobacco, in compensation whereof it is ordered that she serve her master
>>>or other person paying her fine half a year of her tyme by indenture or
>>>custom expired. And for that a bastard child happened to be begot in the
>>>fornication, tis also ordered Lydia Hilliard doe serve her master one
>>>year after her indenture, custom or otherwise expired, in regard of the
>>>loss and trouble sustained by her having such bastard child.
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>>>And it is further ordered, in regard to Lydia’s being a servant and the
>>>bastard child happening to be a mulatto begot of her body in the
>>>fornication being a Negro man, that after her tyme expires which she
>>>ought to serve her master by law, that the churchwardens of the parish
>>>of Washington doe take Lydia into their possession and sell her for five
>>>years and that the money for which she shall be sold bee by them
>>>disposed to the uses by law appointed." [3] "Lydia Hilliard, a single
>>>woman servant to St. John Shropshire, Clerk, Minister if Washington
>>>Parish, being with child, upon her corporal oath did swear one Albin, an
>>>Englishman, to be the father of the child, which said child at the time
>>>of her delivery appeared to be a mulatto, as upon complaint was fully
>>>shown to this court, wherefore it is ordered that Lydia doe for rashly
>>>foreswearing herself receive on her bare back ten lashes well layd on
>>>and the sheriff if his deputy perform the execution of this order."
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>>>"If you believe people have no history worth mentioning, it's easy to
>>>believe they have no humanity worth defending."
>>>— William Loren Katz
>>>June 18, 2009
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>>>On Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:38 AM, Margie Barton <[log in to unmask]>
>>>wrote:
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>>>Henrico County Minute Book September Court 1740; Need help with trying to
>>>read wording on page 124 or 24 first three lines on page Deed to William
>>>Pride. Microfilm was so light and not familiar with hand writing, I
>>>could
>>>figure out the words.
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>>>>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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>>>>Thank you.
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