VA-ROOTS Archives

May 2010

VA-ROOTS@LISTLVA.LIB.VA.US

Options: Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
Poldi Tonin <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history." <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Tue, 4 May 2010 19:06:08 -0500
Content-Type:
text/plain
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (188 lines)
Regarding the DNA test used by Dr.Gates and Emmitt Smith. It was the
Admixture test and to my knowledge is not available via FamilyTreeDNA but
through another source (?perhaps University of Pennsylvania?).
The Admixture test reveals the racial profile of the person tested. Quite
Expensive!!!

If this test were available at a reasonable price, I would do it.
Poldi




On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Jones, Louise (LVA) <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Mr. Bennett,
>
> I think the best way to solve this problem of descent form Pocahontas
> would be for people who say they descend from her to have their DNA
> checked.  They need to do the test that says what percentage of
> European, Asian, and African DNA you have.
>
> If you watched "Who Do You Think You Are" on NBC and Dr. Henry Louis
> Gates series on PBS you heard them mention of this test.  Emmitt Smith
> had it done as did the participants of Dr. Gates series. Emmitt Smith
> results showed that he has European, African and Asian Ancestors.
>
> If the people you who claim to descend from Pocahontas have Asian DNA
> this may give their claim validity.
>
> Louise Jones
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James Burnett
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:51 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [VA-ROOTS] Pocahontas Descendants
>
> Good Morning To All Virginians those who love Virginia History
>
>
>
> I need some help with resolving a question on the descendants of a
> Native
> Virginian.
>
>
>
> The NGS Conf for 2007 was held in Richmond and the NGS Banquet speaker
> was
> Dick Cheatham. He purported to be a 14th generation descendant of
> Pocahontas
> and spoke in costume and character of John Rolfe of Jamestown, second
> husband of Pocahontas. John Rolfe and Pocahontas had one child, a son,
> named
> Thomas Rolfe.
>
>
>
> First Assumption: Mr. Cheatham's lineage is via Thomas Rolfe. I find no
> writings indicating that Pocahontas had any children by her first
> marriage
> to an Indian from her tribe.
>
>
>
>
>
> I am now reading *Pocahontas, Powhatan, Opechancanough;Three Indian
> Lives
> Changed by Jamestown* by Helen C. Rountree, University of Virginia
> Press,
> 2005.
>
>
>
> I got to this text by the numerous referrals to it in *The River Where
> America Began; A Journey Along the James* by Bob Deans, Rowman &
> Littlefield
> Publishers , Inc., 2007. In this text he was quite complimentary of the
> effort by Helen C. Rountree on the Pocahontas book.
>
>
>
> Now for a lengthy quote from the Rountree book.
>
>
>
> "Thomas Rolfe grew up in England as an Englishman, though he retained a
> sympathy for his mother's folk. His passage to Virginia was paid in
> 1635,
> when he was nineteen or twenty, by his stepmother's father, and he took
> his
> place in Anglo-Virginian society as a landowner, his father's heir....
> His
> later career is shadowy, and he was dead by 1681.
>
> Nobody in Virginia, elsewhere in America, or in England seems to have
> taken
> more interest in either Pocahontas or her descendants until well after
> 1800,
> when the aristocratic Randolph family's oral tradition of descent from
> her
> (through the Bolling family) began to be publicized. Before that, none
> of
> her descendants' ancestry was any more the subject of record making that
> that of most other Virginians. ...
>
> Consequently, the tens of thousands of people proudly claiming descent
> from
> Pocahontas today----or asking genealogists to prove such descent for
> them---cannot actually trace a line of authentic, contemporary documents
> stretching back to Thomas Rolfe. No one can.[Here Ms. Rountree
> references
> Moore and Slatten, 1985, Magazine of Virginia Genealogy 23 (3):3-16]
> Elements of Pocahontas are out there in the gene pool, allright, but
> they
> probably dwell in a great many people with whom the *blue bloods* would
> rather not associate".
>
>
>
> So first did we/do we believe that Mr. Cheatham is truly a descendant of
> Pocahontas when he was booked for the NGS Conference? One would think
> since
> he was speaking of his lineage to a genealogical society he would have
> been
> vetted to some degree.  I personally don't remember him using any
> qualifiers
> on his lineage.
>
>
> Secondly does anyone have scholarly references that have been vetted
> they
> could share with us.
>
>
>
> No! I do not think I was a descendant. No! I do not have a client that
> thinks they are a descendant. The interest in this book was raised by
> the
> many references to it in the *The River...* and I am from Virginia and
> love
> Virginia history. Now I have what I perceive as a contradiction in
> facts.
>
>
>
> I look forward to your comments.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Douglas Burnett
> Satellite Beach
> FL
>
> To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the
> instructions at
> http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html
>
> To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions
> at
> http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html
>



-- 

"She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her."
Hercule Poirot

http://www.FrontPorchRockerNews.blogspot.com

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Langford
This project includes Lankford spelling also.

"Truth and reason are eternal. They have prevailed. And they will
eternally prevail; however, in times and places they may be overborne
for a while by violence, military, civil, or ecclesiastical."
--Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson, 1810

To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at
http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html

ATOM RSS1 RSS2