I agree that the underlying human motivations are the same. But when paradigm shifters come along, these are game changers. I think it incorrect to say that that families would be beggared if slavery were ended, despite their firmly held beliefs. Clearly that was not always the case after the Civil War. Transitioning from slave to free labor took a while to work out, but in the end, not a lot changed for a good while. I know that share-cropping and tenant-farming were in effect little different from the former chattel slavery, but looking into the post Civil War era Railroad construction boom and into the post WWI and WWII eras, opportunities existed for black families that were not present prior to the Civil War. Population shifts to job locations did occur.

Lyle Browning


On May 7, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Stephan Schwartz wrote:

> I don't know why anyone would find Kevin Hardwick's statements
> controversial. One can see exactly the same process he describes going on
> today with the resistance of old energy interests to the transition to
> non-petroleum decentralized energy, most notably in the disinformation
> campaigns against climate change. The rich of the South understood, quite
> correctly -- my own family's documents make state it clearly -- that they
> would be beggared if slavery were ended. Motivated by that fear they
> manipulated and enflamed the mass, in the same way we see it happening
> today, with pseudo-think tanks like Heartland Institute and its propaganda
> against climate change. Whether it is 12 April 1861 or 12 May 2012, the
> underlying human motivations are much the same.
> 
> -- Stephan
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Hardwick, Kevin - hardwikr <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> To ask why individual soldiers chose to fight, as opposed to why
>> republican polities chose to take their citizens to war, is to pose two
>> distinct questions.  We should take care not to confuse the one with the
>> other.
>> 
>> Confederate soldier's correspondence does support the commonly heard
>> assertion (as here represented by Mr. Southmayd's comment) that many
>> Confederate soldiers signed up primarily to defend their homes and
>> families.  Such an assertion, of course, by no means rebuts the argument
>> that many of them *also* fought to defend slavery.
>> 
>> But even if it was the case that EVERY Confederate soldier fought for the
>> sole and only purpose of defending hearth and home from "Northern
>> Aggression," that is irrelevant to the argument advanced by Paul Finkelman,
>> Henry Wiencek, and others in this thread.  When it comes to the question of
>> why the South chose to secede, elected representatvies from every single
>> one of the Southern States, in written proclamations on behalf of the State
>> governments, made it quite clear that their primary purpose in doing so was
>> to protect the institution of slavery.  Unless we have strong reason not to
>> do so, we should assume that they meant what they said.  Southern
>> politicians chose to break the Union--a Union that earlier generations of
>> American statesmen had proclaimed to be inviolable and perpetual--because
>> they perceived such radical action to be necessary in order to preserve
>> slavery.
>> 
>> ___________________________
>> Kevin R. Hardwick
>> Associate Professor
>> Department of History, MSC 8001
>> James Madison University
>> Harrisonburg, Virginia 22807
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>> "We often ask why so many southern white men, who did not own slaves and
>> whose economic picture was negatively impacted by the competition from
>> slavery, fought in 1861 to uphold an institution that did not evidently
>> benefit them..."Pretty obvious they fought largely because their homes were
>> being invaded by an enemy army.  Or as one Southern soldier in Virginia
>> reportedly responded to a Northern soldier's question "Reb, why are you
>> fighting" with "I reckon because your here."
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