And just what "freedom" was Drake fighting for?
Nat Turner wanted freedom for people enslaved? What "freedom" was Drake
hoping for?
Anne
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> Drake was just an English "freedom fighter".? So what if he killed and
> pillaged, just like ole Nat Turner.
>
> J South
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Philip Adams <[log in to unmask]>
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> Sent: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 8:34 am
> Subject: Re: Pirates and Privateers
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>
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> To the English he was a National hero. To the Sapnish he was the Jesse
> James
> of the day. It is all a matter of whose ox is getting gored. The Indians
> were just wanting to figure out to get rid of all of them.
> JPAdams
> Texas
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf of Anne Pemberton
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 7:06 AM
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> Subject: Re: Pirates and Privateers
>
> John,
>
> I'm not sure that thieving from a thief is an honorable undertaking. After
> All, Drake did not return those "riches" to the native people, but just
> Passed them on to other people who didn't deserve them either.
>
> Anne
>
>
> Anne Pemberton
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Philip Adams" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 7:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Pirates and Privateers
>
>
>> Drake is considered a war hero and explorer in England. What he did was
>> to
>> fight against a Spanish force that at the time was oppressing, stealing
>> the
>> gold, silver, and other resources, of the indigenous natives, Aztecs and
>> Incas. So who is the more guilty party? Drake circumnavigated the planet
>> while the Spanish were busy trying to pillage the resources. Drake was
>> knighted for this exploit and also for his efforts, his uncle's Sir John
>> Hawkins and the rest of the English Admirality in 1588. Beating the
>> Spanish
>> and saving the world from the Inqusition of Torqueamda and the Spanish
>> Catholic Church shold also receive a little mention.
>> John Philip Adams
>> Texas
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2008, at 4:49 PM, Sharon Peery wrote:
>>
>>> This strikes me as anachronistic. Sir Francis Drake was
>>> a pirate too, you know. One of the ways early govern-
>>> ments dealt with insufficient funds to create an adequate
>>> navy was to issue letters of marque and to set the whole
>>> thing up as a free enterprise. (With the entire private
>>> contractors presently operating in Iraq, we seem to be returning to
>>> that era.)
>>>
>>> As for Nat Turner, Gabriel etc., just how were slaves
>>> who objected to slavery supposed to respond? There
>>> were certainly no legal routes for them to pursue, and
>>> they sometimes responded with what seems to us
>>> "mindless violence," in the great tradition of the European peasant
>>> uprisings. I too am a fan of Douglas
>>> Egerton's book on Gabriel's rebellion, and it should be
>>> noted that Mr. Egerton contends that Gabriel was very
>>> much influenced by the rhetoric of the Jeffersonian
>>> party around the 1800 elections.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Pemberton" <[log in to unmask]
>>> >
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 1:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Nat Turner Rebellion
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