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A PLANTATION is where crops or produce is grown for commercial use to be 
shipped or exported.
A FARM is more for crops and cattle of the personal nature with some being 
sold for profit and some for personal use.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harold Gill" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Plantations


> Maybe the following will help clarify the distinction.
> William Nelson wrote that his son Hugh converted one of his plantations to 
> a farm for
> growing provisions instead of tobacco. John Adams wrote in Feb. 1777: "The
> Planters are those who raise Tobacco and the Farmers such as raise Wheat
> &c." This distinction seems to have been normal in 18th century Virginia.
> After all Nelson and Adams were there.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Craig Kilby" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 8:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Plantations
>
>
>> What is this? I've never heard of any such definition. I have, for a 
>> example, a will from 1770 in which the testator devises his  "plantation" 
>> to his sons. It was all of 400 acres and I doubt much of  it was used to 
>> produce anything except booze and a few livestock.
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Harold Gill wrote:
>>
>>> The difference between a plantation and a farm is what was produced  not 
>>> the size. Washington's holdings were called farms because they  produced 
>>> provisions.
>>> HBG
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica Carter"  <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:04 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Plantations
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ferry Farm was 600 acres when the Washingtons owned it.  Mount  Vernon 
>>>> was actually broken up into four farms, but I don't know if  it was 
>>>> considered four plantations or one.  Their website might  have more 
>>>> acreage info.
>>>>
>>>> My understanding is that individual plantation sizes in Virginia  in 
>>>> the eighteenth century were in the smaller range (maybe 1,000  acres or 
>>>> less) rather than the huge, 3,000 acre ones found in 19th- century 
>>>> cotton plantations or in the 18th-century Carolina  lowcountry. 
>>>> Virginia landowners may have owned just as much land,  but it was in 
>>>> individual plantations for the most part rather than  one single 
>>>> sweeping plantation.
>>>>
>>>> Philip Morgan's book. Slave Counterpoint, discusses acreage of 
>>>> plantations in both Virginia and South Carolina in the eighteenth 
>>>> century.  He talks about it in relation to where slaves lived, but  he 
>>>> has some good information in there on plantation size as well.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps!!
>>>>
>>>> Jessica Carter
>>>>
>>>> At 06:35 PM 6/24/2009, you wrote:
>>>>> Is there any data on the sizes of colonial and 19C plantations? I am
>>>>> not interested in land grants or total holdings, but rather the  sizes
>>>>> of individual plantations. So, for instance, the size of Ferry  Farm 
>>>>> or
>>>>> Mount Vernon rather than the total holdings of the Washingtons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Jim Brothers
>>>>>
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