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Don,

Much has been made of this simple attempt to GET TJ for owning slaves,
several in the media, various foundations, some in academia with political
correctness inclinations and others with slavery issues have "blown a simple
amateurish "contrived" DNA Study out of the water." It is very explainable
to serious minded people such as the Scholars Commission (13 senior
scholars) (www.tjheritage.org) who concluded after 12 months of
study........NO proof that TJ fathered any slave child.

As a DNA Project Administrator I am sure you can immediately SPOT this
"TRAIN WRECK" before it gets off the ground. The man that Dr Foster tested
was a KNOWN carrier of the Jefferson DNA, as believed by the Eston Hemings
family. Knowing this from a copy of a letter I have from a member of the
Eston Hemings family, they ALWAYS believed they descended from "a Jefferson
uncle or nephew". This reference is to Randolph Jefferson, younger brother
of Thomas and his Randolph's sons, who were known by that by the TJ
grandchildren and their slave playmates. Eston NEVER claimed descent from
Thomas as his brother, Madison, did in a DOUBTFUL newspaper article. One
major claim at least, was proven INCORRECT in that article, thus I never
believe ANYTHING stated there is more than an attempt to "bad mouth TJ." Dr
Foster, of whom I assisted, DID NOT inform Nature that he "had a real
winner......it couldn't miss, and didn't. This test only proved that the
Eston family were correct in their claims......but NOT Thomas. The main long
held Campaign Lie of Callender was "shot down" by the DNA Study by there
being NO Jefferson/Woodson match, thus it really was a Campaign Lie but went
for many years until DNA unmasked his lie.

Herb     

-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Donald Locke
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Falsely charging TJ with "bedding a slave"

As a DNA project Admin. myself who runs 4 different DNA projects, I would be
interested in reviewing this so called DNA evidence. 





Anyone have links to the DNA evidence being discussed? 



Don 








----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anne Pemberton" <[log in to unmask]> 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:07:48 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain 
Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Falsely charging TJ with "bedding a slave" 

Kevin, 

You have a reasonable approach to the matter. I've been fairly convinced 
since I read Fawn Brodie many years ago. I leave a little room for doubt, 
but NOT because he was a great, wonderful, founding father, but because 
there is always the chance that we are misreading the circumstances. I think

that Jon Kukla made a good case in Jefferson's Women, by looking at how 
Jefferson interacted with other women during his life. He was quite clumsy 
with women, failed to consider them as equal human beings, killed his 
beloved wife by excessive child-bearing, failed to provide a decent 
education for his daughters, and more than I can remember at the moment. 
Topping that off was The Hemingses of Monticello which explore the 
relationship by his actions both recorded and not, towards the Hemings 
family which was distinctly different than his relationship to most of his 
other slaves. 

I do not come at this subject as a trained historian or geneologist, but as 
a lover of stories. And Sally and Tom are a good story whether you decide it

has fiction running through it, or if you decide that is is strictly 
factual. 

Anne 

Anne Pemberton 
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http://www.erols.com/apembert 
http://www.educationalsynthesis.org 

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