I never said any such thing. Basil did, and he has a right to his opinion and a right to voice it and I have a right to agree or disagree with him. I also never said that all Indians are savages. I said that Indians who murdered and mutilated were savages and to portray them as respectable would be a lie.
Abraham Lincoln, may his name live on in infamy, was responsible for the deaths of 700,000 of the citizens he took an oath to protect, many of them Indian and black. He advocated a scorched earth policy and gave tacit approval to rampage, rape and murder. He intentionally destroyed an entire society, not because Southerners owned slaves but because he didn't want to let states who from the get-go had constitutional rights to secede do so. He exiled newspapermen, jailed people who spoke out against him, freed only those slaves behind Confederate lines, yadda yadda yadda. HE wasn't respectable, either. The man should have been tried for war crimes and handed over to a firing squad. Which, come to think of it, is kinda sorta but not exactly what happened. If you knew anything about him at all, you would know that he was not anti-slavery until he started losing the war. He made it clear he did not want blacks in the state of Illinois and he was open and on record
about his view that blacks could never be equal to whites. He wanted to ship all of them back to Africa.
Your label of "terrorist" is incorrect and insulting to descendents of Confederate soldiers, Virginian or otherwise. Furthermore, and just for the record, the Practitioners of the Religion of Peace did not have their way in Pennsylvania. They were headed for Washington until the passengers cut their trip short.
You haven't answered my question.
Anne Pemberton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Clara,
You were the one who said folks who were wronged should just "get over it".
You are the one who insists that Native Americans are savages for the acts
of a few, despite the peaceful good nature of the rest of them. Now, it is
your turn to just "get over it".
I find it amusing that the legislature that refuses to honor Lincoln so long
after the civil war is over, is the same legislature that wretched and
waffled over apologizing to the descendents of former slaves until they so
watered down the words they used as to be disrespectful.
Anne
Anne Pemberton
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Clara Callahan"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: Long memories
> So lemme get this straight. Descendents of southerners who lived through
> the invasion need to get over it but descendents of blacks and Indians
> don't?
>
>
>
> Anne Pemberton wrote:
> Henry,
>
> Apparently, some people do not perceive the need to "get over it", they
> just
> inflict that flippancy to those they disrespect.
>
> Never mind that Virginians "laid waste " to the lives, homes, and lands of
> the Native Americans. That was OK. But for Lincoln to respond to the
> attack
> of the southern terrorists, was certainly indecent of him. He should have
> just let those terrorists have their way, as they did in the countryside
> of
> Pennsylvania.
>
> Anne
>
> Anne Pemberton
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> http://www.erols.com/stevepem
> http://www.erols.com/apembert
> http://www.educationalsynthesis.org
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Henry Wiencek"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:02 PM
> Subject: Long memories
>
>
> This just in on the AP wire:
>
> RICHMOND, Va.
>
> Virginia lawmakers killed legislation today that would have made Virginia
> part of the national commemoration of Abraham Lincoln's 200th birthday.
>
> . . . Robert Lamb of Richmond, a member of the Sons of Confederate
> Veterans, told the committee that Lincoln ... quote ... "sent armies into
> Virginia to lay waste to our land."
>
> ***
>
> I guess "with malice toward none" doesn't cut it any longer. Do I hear
> anyone saying "Get over it"?
>
> Henry Wiencek
> Charlottesville
>
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