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J South,

What makes you think Sally did not know who the father of her children were? 
Unless, of course,  she was handed out along with the guest towels when 
relatives came to visit.

Anne

Anne Pemberton
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----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: Biology and Sally Hemings


> He sure wasn't "honoring" his mother who apparently didn't know exactly 
> whom
> was the father of all of her children.
>
> J South
>
>
> In a message dated 11/3/2008 10:44:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Herbert,
>
> Perhaps Eston was honoring his  father.
>
> Anne
>
> Anne  Pemberton
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> -----  Original Message ----- 
> From: "Herbert Barger"  <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent:  Monday, November 03, 2008 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: Biology and Sally  Hemings
>
>
> No, Madison Hemings remained in Pike Co., Ohio. It was his  lighter 
> skinned
> brother Eston who moved to Wisconsin, passing as white as  his descendents
> did. Just thinking out loud here: IF he wished to pass as  white and draw 
> no
> attention WHY did he choose to use the eye catching name,  E.H. Jefferson?
>
> Herb Barger
>
>
> Herbert,
>
> Didn't Madison  move to Wisconsin where he was known as Madison Jefferson,
> and was  considered white, but his wife was mixed, so the children, would
> have also  been so, and as they married other darker people, this 
> descendents
>
> today could be much darker than Madison  was.
>
> Anne
>
> Anne  Pemberton
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> http://www.erols.com/apembert
> http://www.educationalsynthesis.org
> -----  Original Message ----- 
> From: "Herbert Barger"  <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent:  Sunday, November 02, 2008 7:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Biology and Sally  Hemings
>
>
> Anne may I insert a correction and clarification here. All  of Sally's
> children and their descendants were NOT white or light skinned.  Eston's
> family, who claimed descent from Randolph,  passed as white  because they
> looked that way, however Madison who claimed TJ as his  grandfather, could
> not pass for white, remained in the black community in  Ohio and his
> descendants are black. May we not question this since some are  claiming 
> that
> Sally had only one father for her children. The Madison  descendants of 
> today
> REFUSE to DNA test Madison's son's DNA in a grave in  Leavenworth, Kansas.
>
> Herb Barger
> Jefferson Family  Historian
>
> On Nov 1, 2008, at 9:46 PM, Anne Pemberton wrote:
>
>>  Lyle,
>>
>> Explain, if you will how Sally, who was 1/2 or 1/4 black  could mate
>> with a slave who was 1/4 black and produce all and only  white/light-
>> skinned children, and six of them at that. Seems to me  that with six
>> children, at least one of them would be considerably  darker than the
>> others. Are we discussing the difference between  scientific
>> possibilities and probabilities?
>>
>>  Anne
>>
>> Anne Pemberton
>> [log in to unmask]
>>  http://www.erols.com/apembert
>>  http://www.educationalsynthesis.org
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