Netti and others:

I agree that the number of people in the muster who gave 1609 as the date
when they arrived in Virginia aboard the Hercules makes it unlikely that
that date is a mistake and should be 1610. It seems more likely that a ship
named Hercules brought people to Virginia in 1609.

Hercules was a popular name for ships then, and the ship that arrived in
1609 may not have been the same ship that arrived with Lord Delaware in
1610.

The document from the British Library that I mentioned, which is, as Peter
Bergstrom pointed out, transcribed in Brown's early history, is also
transcribed in Edward Wright Haile, ed., Jamestown Narratives: Eyewitness
Accounts of the Virginia Colony; The First Decade: 1607-1617, pp. 454ff.

The transcription gives the names of Delaware's ships in the following
phrase: "the first of April, 1610, in the good ship the De la Warr, admiral,
accompanied with the Blissing of Plymouth, vice-admiral, and the Hercules of
Rye, rear-admiral, we weighed from the Cowes, . . ."

I believe that the references to admiral, vice-admiral, and rear-admiral
have to do with the relationships of the ships rather than people. Thus, it
appears that Lord Delaware had named his ship after himself. It is
interesting that no one in the later muster gives that name as the ship in
which he or she arrived.

John

John T. Kneebone [log in to unmask]
Director, Publications and Educational Services
Library of Virginia http://www.lva.lib.va.us

-----Original Message-----
From: Netti Schreiner-Yantis [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:30 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: SHIPS TO JAMESTOWN 1610


Mr. Kneebone,

Sorry, I sent the last message unintentionally.  I couldn't remember that
the ships Blessing and Hercules were among the ships mentioned in the
MUSTER, but thought I'd better check to see before sending the message.  Was
trying to switch to my database to make sure and the message flew away.

I'm sorry it did as I found that my memory wasn't very good!  Indeed there
were people who came on those ships.  Or at least, they may have.  In case
anyone is on this list is interested, I'll mention them:

  Mrs. Jane Pierce, wife of Capt. Wm. Pierce, came on the Blessinge [no date
given]
  Robert Partin said he came over in the Blessinge in June 1609 [maybe it
was 1610?]

  Walter Scott arrived on the Hercules in 1618 ["8" and "0" could have been
indistinquishable]
  Booth Reynolds arrived on the Hercules in 1609 [maybe 1610?]
  Mr. William Julian  "           "           "           "
  John Chaundler      "           "           "           "
  Michael Batt        "           "          [no date given]
  [Since three people said they arrived on he Hercules in 1609, it would
seem that it made the voyage in both 1609 and 1610.  Perhaps Ms. Hillier's
work will clarify that.]

  There was no mention of a ship named "Admiral" by any of the colonists in
the MUSTER, however.

Netti

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