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Amazing that Robert E. Lee remains the one great unstained American.

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> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:52:19 -0500
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: (VA-HIST] "The Monster of Monticello"
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> In  his novel, The Human Stain, Philip Roth notes that one of America's 
> oldest communal passions is  to indulge in the "ecstasy of sanctimony." We feel 
> good and morally superior by  condemning the moral failings of others, past 
> and present. I think it is  particularly important for those of us 
> dedicated to a study of the past to guard  against falling into the dangerous 
> condition of the "ecstasy of sanctimony." It  affects those on both the right and 
> left wings of the political  spectrum.
>  
> Peter  Henriques
>  
>  
> In a message dated 12/11/2012 9:42:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> [log in to unmask] writes:
> 
> Thank  you! Very few extraordinary men have totally clean slates of 
> behavior. It  seems a bit juvenile to condemn the man and everything he 
> accomplished instead  of condemning the (disappointing and unexpected by "fans") bad 
> behavior as a  part of that human being. The emotion about this subject never 
> ceases to amaze  me. Expecting our heroes to be saints is very concrete 
> thinking.
> 
> Sent  from Melinda's 
> iPad
> 
> On Dec 11, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Steve Corneliussen  <[log in to unmask]> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Mr. Barger complained that  Monticello's "emphasis...on slavery issues" 
> comes "at the expense of Mr.  Jefferson." To me that seems upside down. The 
> emphasis in fact honors Mr.  Jefferson.
> > 
> > Mr. Jefferson matters because self-evident but  challenging truths 
> matter. It's too bad that Monticello, like the rest of us,  failed for many 
> decades to begin elucidating and respecting the lives, dignity  and contributions 
> of individual Americans obscenely oppressed by fellow  Americans -- 
> including by Mr. Jefferson, the paradoxically slaveholding  human-rights idealist.
> > 
> > If Monticello had continued its former  Gone-with-the-Windism on slavery 
> late into the last century, if the curators  had persisted in obscuring 
> Americans' lives on that mountain, it would have  been the foundation's civic, 
> historical and moral negligence that would have  come at the expense of Mr. 
> Jefferson.
> > 
> > But they got it right.  Good for them. Good for self-evident truths.
> > 
> > Good for Mr.  Jefferson.
> > 
> > Steven T. Corneliussen
> >  http://www.fortmonroenationalpark.org/
> > http://tjscience.org/
> >  http://www.physicstoday.org/daily_edition/science_and_the_media
> >  
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