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I used to repair china and pottery, some of the things I noticed
about the pieces were pretty interesting. Old pieces from England
invariably had a film of blackish soot from coal fires on them.
American pottery didn't. Of course, the popular Rosewood pottery from
the 1940s and '50s almost always has a scum of cigarette tar on them.
Everybody back then smoked.

I read where the first settlers thought the forests here were so
abundant, you could never cut all the trees down. If only they could
see us now. The first commercial export sent out of Jamestown was
wood. Wood was pretty scarce in England. I'm sure the abundant game,
the pigs you could turn loose in the forest, provided plenty of meat
for the early settlers. Why mess with chopping up, mixing and boiling
haggis [there's another reason there- a long boiling process would
heat up the southern home pretty badly] when you could go out a shoot
a few squirrels, or catch some fish, or track down one of your hogs.

Nancy

-------
I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days.

--Daniel Boone



On Jan 15, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Debra Jackson/Harold Forsythe wrote:

> I think that the bounty of the New World changed many Old World
> customs.  By
> the late 18th century it was understood that the two wonders of North
> America were that you could burn wood for heat and cooking (instead
> of coal)
> and that you could eat meat seven days a week.  (Remember the rise
> of the
> Peruvian potato in northern Europe.)  It is difficult for us to
> imagine the
> world we do not live in but American abundance amazed 18th and 19th
> (and
> 20th) century immigrants.
>
> Expansion of grain and meat production capacity in the US, Canada,
> Argentina, Uruguay, and Australia dwarfs I am sure the expansion of
> food
> production capacity in the rest of the world from 1800-2006.
>
> Harold S. Forsythe
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sunshine49" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 6:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Haggis
>
>
>> The old recipe I had made it seem most like a large sausage made with
>> oatmeal. Did the Scottish settlers to Va. carry on the tradition in
>> any way? Off hand, I can't think of any haggis-like food item here.
>> Maybe, lacking sheep up in the mountains, they didn't try to
>> translate it using other types of meat? Maybe meat was more abundant
>> here- wild game, if nothing else- that they didn't feel the need to
>> go through the mess and bother to make it?
>>
>> Nancy
>>
>> -------
>> I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days.
>>
>> --Daniel Boone
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Clara Callahan wrote:
>>
>>> Haggis is one of my favorite foods, and I order it whenever I find
>>> it on the menu.  Like any other type of food, there are good and
>>> not-so-good versions.  The only bad haggis I ever have eaten was at
>>> The Western Isles Hotel in Tobermory on the Isle of Mull.  The two
>>> best were on the mainland in the Ft William area and Floddigary on
>>> the Isle of Skye.  It can have the consistency of well-fried finely
>>> ground hamburger or can have a moister consistency, similar to
>>> meatloaf.  I've tried all kinds and, like I said, the only nasty
>>> one I encountered was on Mull.
>>>
>>>   Clara
>>>
>>> Sunshine49 <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>   They say that's why it has to be washed down with whiskey. A more
>>> recent event at the Highland Games around the US, along with the
>>> more
>>> traditional Scottish events, is a "haggis toss." Throwing a whole
>>> haggis for distance. Maybe that gives them an excuse not to have to
>>> cook and eat it.
>>>
>>> Nancy
>>>
>>> -------
>>> I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days.
>>>
>>> --Daniel Boone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Melinda Skinner wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have to tell you that haggis is pretty foul smelling, too.
>>>> My Scottish husband smuggled a couple of them into the US decades
>>>> ago and, when he cooked them, I had to leave the house. Worse than
>>>> chitlins, kidney stew, or stinky cheese!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Melinda C. P. Skinner
>>>> Writer and Wonderer
>>>>
>>>>
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