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commonplace book
noun
a book into which notable extracts from other works are copied for  
personal use.

New Oxford American Dictionary

It may be of interest what captured Jefferson's attention at 15, but  
what a commonplace book is can not be disputed, and any person  
aspiring to historical sophistication should know this. Kevin is  
absolutely correct.

Having previously posted my views on the Jefferson Hemmings matter I  
have stayed entirely out of this thread which, I believe, has come to  
seem more like a personal tic than a collegial discussion — far more  
revealing of some of the posters than the subject of their posts.

-- Stephan


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On 9 Oct 2008, at 01:45, [log in to unmask] wrote:

> Adrian Zolkovar's statement below is downright odd.  I can't see  
> any kind of logical connection to the words I wrote.  Zolkover's  
> comment is a non-sequitor.
>
> To reprise: MacDonald implied that Kukla had been misleading, or  
> perhaps even dishonest.  This was because, MacDonald wrote, Kukla  
> did not explicitly reveal that the stuff in Jefferson's Commonplace  
> book was not actually written by Jefferson, but rather was a bunch  
> of quotes that Jefferson transcribed from other people's writing.
>
> I replied with the comment below.  A commonplace book, by  
> definition, is a collection of quotes from other people's writings.
>
> What does any of this have to do with what Jefferson was thinking  
> about when he was 15?  Yes, Jefferson was 15 when he compiled the  
> Commonplace book--but that fact is irrelevant to the implication by  
> MacDonald, and to my reply.
>
> And how does any of this relate to my maturity, or lack thereof?
>
> All best,
> Kevin
>
> ---- Original message ----
>> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 21:38:47 -0700
>> From: Adrian Zolkover <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: ANSWERS - Annette Gordon-Reed
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> Professor Kevin, grow up (smile, smile). What is in TJ's head when  
>> he is 15
>> is worth noting.
>>
>> az
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] ANSWERS - Annette Gordon-Reed
>>
>>
>>> A small thing, but worthy of comment.  Neil MacDonald writes:   
>>> "Kukla
>>> apparently didn't reveal that TJ's Literary Commonplace Book was a
>>> collection of excerpts from other author's literary work . . ."
>>>
>>> Of course Kukla revealed this.  This is what a commonplace book  
>>> *is*, by
>>> definition.  By identifying the source as a commomplace book, Kukla
>>> fulfilled his obligation to his readers.
>>>
>>> All best,
>>> Kevin
>>> Kevin R. Hardwick, Ph.D.
>>> Department of History
>>> James Madison University
>>>
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> Department of History
> James Madison University
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