You always buy property from the one who holds title to the land.
France had taken the property in question by rights of arms, trade and
negotiation. They may not have been 'fair' to the 'native Americans or a
better euphemism, indigenous natives, but it was the property of France.
Maybe we should question whether Napoleon had the right to dispose of
property that really belonged to the King of France, who was executed by an
illegal governmental body.
Of course, this argument about natives rights that the Mexicans are using to
say that the Southwest, Texas specifically, was taken from them. May I say
that as a Texan and one whose family came from Virginia and South Carolina,
this is as bogus, erroneous, and STUPID argument, that Jefferson did not
have the right to buy the Louisiana Purchase from France.
Jefferson had the right as the chief executive of the USA to protect and
further the land holdings as a protector to the life, liberty and happiness
of the citizens of the USA.
John Philip Adams
-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anne Pemberton
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:48 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: whose slaves?
Nancy,
I am curious. Where was the original "right" of states to leave the union?
Was it near the right of the federal government to buy land from the French
instead of the actual owners of the land, the Native Americans, as Jefferson
did?
Anne
Anne Pemberton
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sunshine49" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: whose slaves?
> Amen again...
>
> But I suppose we are southerners, we are all racist, we all owned slaves,
> we were all terrorists, we were all guilty of treason. Funny, the people
> back then, people who fought, people who were affected, were happy to
> forgive and forget, heal the wounds, get on with life and rebuilding the
> country. They knew that was important. So why are people today so unable
> to continue that attitude? Oh, a bunch of scholars who can quote this
> text and that document [that bolsters their argument] and declare the
> resulting guilt of every southerner. They, obviously, know so much more
> than those who were involved did. Hey, what about the original right of
> states to leave the union if they so required? About the necessity of
> rebellion, if needed? Jefferson was espousing treason? Sure seems like
> it. Back in those days, the states, and loyalty to states, held far more
> power than we could possibly imagine today. What have many here been
> preaching about not applying today's standards to past events?
>
> Oh, that's right, I guess the south is an exception to that 'rule', as it
> is to so many rules. Bigotry is bigotry and bigotry is bad, unless, of
> course, you are applying it to those terroristic, treasonous southerners.
> Paint 'em all with the same brush, who cares? Draw broad categories and
> shove 'em all in there. They're just some lesser species of Americans
> anyway.
>
> Nancy
> -------
> Our eyes report to our minds what our minds have told them to see.
>
> --Anon.
>
>
>
> -------
> I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days.
>
> --Daniel Boone
>
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2007, at 9:21 PM, [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
>> That nasty Lincoln didn't take away everyone's slaves: only the 7-10% of
>> southerners who owned slaves.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Finkelman"
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: Long memories
>>
>>
>>> Not only that, but that mean old Lincoln took away all their slaves
>>>
>>> Paul Finkelman
>>> President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law
>>> and Public Policy
>>> Albany Law School
>>> 80 New Scotland Avenue
>>> Albany, New York 12208-3494
>>>
>>> 518-445-3386
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>> [log in to unmask] 02/14/07 4:32 PM >>>
>>> Just like OLD ABE--Then he orderd (SHERMAN) to lay waste.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Henry Wiencek <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:02 PM
>>> Subject: [VA-HIST] Long memories
>>>
>>>
>>> This just in on the AP wire:
>>>
>>> RICHMOND, Va.
>>>
>>> Virginia lawmakers killed legislation today that would have made
>>> Virginia
>>> part of the national commemoration of Abraham Lincoln's 200th birthday.
>>>
>>> . . . Robert Lamb of Richmond, a member of the Sons of Confederate
>>> Veterans, told the committee that Lincoln ... quote ... "sent armies
>>> into
>>> Virginia to lay waste to our land."
>>>
>>> ***
>>>
>>> I guess "with malice toward none" doesn't cut it any longer. Do I hear
>>> anyone saying "Get over it"?
>>>
>>> Henry Wiencek
>>> Charlottesville
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