At least one Lee got something from the "Yankees" appropriation of
Arlington. RAdm Robert C. Lee is buried at Arlington not too far from
the Kennedy Memorial. On the other hand his branch of the Lees were
Yankees :-))
James Brothers, RPA
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On Feb 23, 2007, at 22:02, John Philip Adams wrote:
> "They" have said that since we 'lost' we had our right to secede
> invalidated. Yankee Reconstructionist to the best of my knowledge
> never
> pressed this law through. This is one of those implied things.
> RIGHT. Either
> we originally could secede outright, per our contract of 1845 with
> Tyler, or
> we can divide into 5 states. If we secede, we could become the
> sixth largest
> economy in the world. I would also hope we could acquire the
> resources of
> the Yankees, i.e. Ft. Hood, White sands, Carswell AFB, Randolph,
> Kelly,
> Alice Naval Air Station, Ellington, and all of the reserve Units in
> the
> state. There are several other bases as well of a lot of places
> that have
> been shut down, by the congress in DC.
> BTW, since this is a Virginia list, did anyone ever complain you
> all were
> not paid adequate compensation for the land as well that is DC in
> Virginia,
> as the Lee's not being paid, under eminent domain, for their Arlington
> Plantation?
> I have always said that the $10,000,000 we received was not enough
> and based
> upon FIDC contract negotiations after 1986 we needed three
> appraisals, the
> contract form was not an approved US government approved form, and
> we did
> not have an adequate bid procedure to determine adequate value. WE
> would be
> glad to talk, but you have to take Rick Perry and several of the other
> politicians that are obviously Yankee carpetbagger progeny.
>
>
> John Philip Adams
> Texas
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Clara Callahan
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 8:01 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Secession and the Constitution
>
> Doesn't Texas maintain her right to secede in her constitution?
> Where's the
> Texan in this group?
>
> David Kiracofe <[log in to unmask]> wrote: I remember reading this
> essay some
> time ago and agree with Kevin that
> the question of perpetual union was not a settled one in 1861. Looking
> at everything from the Dopctinres of 1798 to the New England
> Federalists
> in the 1805-1814 period to the Nullifiers in 1832 and the
> Massachusetts
> "personal liberty laws" in the 1850s makes it clear that Lincoln's
> notion that the states were truly subsumed into one whole was not a
> universally held one. I always thought it was a telling choice on the
> part of the founders to depart from the assertion made in the Articles
> of Confederation which aimed at a "perpetual union" -- the founders
> were
> content to aspire merely to a "more perfect union." Lincoln's
> assertion strikes me as one of his great pieces of political
> innovation
> on a par with the new formulations in the Gettysburg Address. Of
> course
> in the end, Lincoln and his armies settled the matter of secession
> with
> military victory (and then there was a legal decision in, I think ,
> 1867
> that finally removed the legal possibility of secession.)
>
>
> The essay is "The Concept of a Perpetual Union," by Kenneth M.
> Stampp, published in The Journal of American History, Vol. 65,
> No. 1. (Jun., 1978), pp. 5-33. It is available readily via
> JSTOR, or in any good academic library.
>
>
>
> David Kiracofe
> History
> Tidewater Community College
> Chesapeake Campus
> 1428 Cedar Road
> Chesapeake, Virginia 23322
> 757-822-5136
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