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Regarding native men and white women- yes, there is, but they have not
yet come to light. I know of a 17th-century case where a Native American
man settled among the English at or near Jamestown and married Margaret,
who appears to be a white woman. History tends to focus on iconic
figures and ignore the rest of society, which is now beginning to be
better known. 

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From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anita Wills
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 8:58 PM
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Subject: Re: TJ and Sally's kids

Maybe that is why the tale of Pocahontas was so important. It was
ushering in an era of assimilating Native women and white males. Again,
this is my opinion, but there is no similar story of Native men & white
women intermixing. 

Anita 

-- Debra Jackson/Harold Forsythe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I don't know whether Paul is right or not but I would suggest for
starters that there probably was only one white woman for every two
white men in colonial Virginia as late as 1700 (see E. Morgan, American
Slavery, American
Freedom.)  Morgan also points out that in a selected not necessary
random sample of bastardy records from VA counties at the end of the
17th century and beginning of the 18th century, white servant women
bearing children out of wedlock, 1/4 to 1/3 were mulattoes.

There are more ways to mix race than just the one the poster is thinking
of.

Harold S. Forsythe
----- Original Message -----
From: "qvarizona" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: TJ and Sally's kids


>  Paul Finkelmen wrote: "I would bet that 99% of all southern "whites" 
> with roots that date before 1840 (or even 1860) have lots of "black" 
> relatives."
>
>  That's a bit of a generalization, don't you think?  To start with,
it's
> based on a misconception,  thus the conclusion is a bit silly.   From
the
> get-go  the majority of Virginians and other southern white men did 
> NOT own slaves.  This didn't mean they were less biased than TJ and
the other
> politicians,  but it did mean opportunities were not the same.
Perhaps
> we sometimes forget that "history" is about more than what happened to

> VIPs like TJ and the other rich and famous.
>
>  Joanne
>
>
>
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