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as I read it today, not that many have signed up to vote- their  
census recorded about 20,000 freedmen for the five tribes; as of late  
last month, only about 2,800 had re-registered in time to vote.  
"Today, no more than a few thousand descendants of the slaves are  
officially members of the five tribes, leaving their prospects for  
defeating the Cherokee referendum slim." [Washington Post] When the  
Dawes Rolls were compiled, census takers set up tents in fields and  
interviewed and inspected the applicants. They were separated into  
categories; if you looked white with Indian blood, or Indian, you  
were listed as whole or part Indian; if you looked black, you were  
not, you were listed as a freedman and no Indian lineage was noted.  
Some claim that if you had so much as a drop of black blood, you were  
considered a freedman, tho some Cherokee leaders dispute this. "In  
cases of mixed freedmen and Indian parents [applicants] were not  
given credit for having any Indian blood." [Kent Carter, 'The Dawes  
Commission'] Many descendants of slaves were dismissed from the tribe  
in 1983 when they were required to show lineage from the Dawes Rolls;  
a tribal court in 2006 reinstated them; today's vote is to settle the  
issue again. [WP]

Nancy

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I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days.

--Daniel Boone



On Mar 3, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Anita Wills wrote:

> Well arent' all of the tribal members going to vote, including the  
> Freedmen descendants?
>
> Anita
>
>
>> From: Clara Callahan <[log in to unmask]>
>> Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia  
>> history              <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Cherokee Election March 3rd Q&A
>> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:27:06 -0800
>>
>> What the Cherokee trying to enforce a requirement for membership  
>> might define as justice appears to be quite the opposite of what  
>> possibly soon-to-be-denied-members might define as justice.
>>
>>   I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "mere" tribalism.  We  
>> are, after all, talking about a tribe here.  Are you saying that  
>> Indian tribes are free to act tribally until they offend someone's  
>> sensibilities, at which point "tribalism" becomes a yucky thing  
>> they shouldn't be allowed to continue?
>>
>> Jurretta Heckscher <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>   Dear Clara:
>>
>> I would hope you gonna root for whomever is being treated unjustly.
>> The alternative is mere tribalism, the source and justification for
>> much of the world's injustice in the first place.
>>
>> --Jurretta Heckscher
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Clara Callahan wrote:
>> >
>>
>> > We just finished a couple of weeks of conversation about what those
>> > whites did to those poor Indians and what those whites did to those
>> > poor blacks. Now the conversation has turned to what those Indians
>> > are doing to those poor whites and blacks. So far on this board no
>> > one is championing either "minority" which, considering the past  
>> two
>> > weeks' conversation, I find quite interesting. What does one do  
>> when
>> > one "minority" goes up against another "minority"? Who you gonna  
>> root
>> > for, the descendents of slaves, the descendents of whites who  
>> married
>> > Indians, or the descendents of Indians?
>> > This oughtta be good.
>> >
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