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Don't think the government has no say to what they indoctronate the masses
to believe!!!!!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Patti G <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Long memories


> During war, I don't care what part of the globe, or what era, all men are
terrorists or barbarians
>
> Clara Callahan <[log in to unmask]> wrote: You're kidding, right?
>
> Anne Pemberton  wrote:  Nancy,
>
> Sorry to disturb your sensibilities, but I do think that terrorists is a
> good description of what the southern soldiers were doing. I'm thinking of
> such things as the invasion of southern Pennsylvania, the torture and
> mutilation of bodies of Union soldiers, especially black Union soldiers,
and
> other attrocities that were committed by those who refused to accept the
> constitutional rule of the majority in this nation.
>
> Just as, I would not take the word only of the settlers at Jamestown for
the
> truth of the way of life of Native Americans, I do not take only the word
of
> southerners for what happened in the uncivil war. There was no "Northern
> Aggression", and, in Virginia, the Union Army did NOT "lay waste" to the
> land. In fact, it was the south who set their own capital city of fire to
> prevent the north from taking possession of the cotton in the warehouses.
If
> it is best to research Native Americans by exploring their lives from
their
> own perspective, then it is best to research that nasty war from both
sides
> of the conflict.
>
> Use of the term "southern terrorists" was intended to offset the nasty
terms
> already being thrown into the fire. Abraham Lincoln was a good,
god-fearing,
> people-loving man who solved a grievous problem in a bad time. He paid for
> his goodness in his untimely death at the hands of a man who refused to
> accept the moral mandate of the nation.
>
> Anne
>
>
>
> Anne Pemberton
> [log in to unmask]
> http://www.erols.com/stevepem
> http://www.erols.com/apembert
> http://www.educationalsynthesis.org
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sunshine49"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Long memories
>
>
> > "Southern terrorists"? It's bigoted name calling like that which causes
> > the war to never end. Once people- any people- start rewriting history-
> > any history- for political ends, you're in trouble.
> >
> > Nancy
> >
> > -------
> > I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days.
> >
> > --Daniel Boone
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 14, 2007, at 4:50 PM, Anne Pemberton wrote:
> >
> >> Henry,
> >>
> >> Apparently, some people do not perceive the need to "get over it", they
> >> just inflict that flippancy to those they disrespect.
> >>
> >> Never mind that Virginians "laid waste " to the lives, homes, and lands
> >> of the Native Americans. That was OK. But for Lincoln to respond to the
> >> attack of the southern terrorists, was certainly indecent of him. He
> >> should have just let those terrorists have their way, as they did in
the
> >> countryside of Pennsylvania.
> >>
> >> Anne
> >>
> >> Anne Pemberton
> >> [log in to unmask]
> >> http://www.erols.com/stevepem
> >> http://www.erols.com/apembert
> >> http://www.educationalsynthesis.org
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Wiencek"
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:02 PM
> >> Subject: Long memories
> >>
> >>
> >> This just in on the AP wire:
> >>
> >> RICHMOND, Va.
> >>
> >> Virginia lawmakers killed legislation today that would have made
> >> Virginia
> >> part of the national commemoration of Abraham Lincoln's 200th birthday.
> >>
> >> . . . Robert Lamb of Richmond, a member of the Sons of Confederate
> >> Veterans, told the committee that Lincoln ... quote ... "sent armies
> >> into
> >> Virginia to lay waste to our land."
> >>
> >> ***
> >>
> >> I guess "with malice toward none" doesn't cut it any longer. Do I hear
> >> anyone saying "Get over it"?
> >>
> >> Henry Wiencek
> >> Charlottesville
> >>
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