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John.... that was a gold mine that you sent me.  I spent an hour or so
looking over the selections.  I could not find any that might be a national
song, but lots that MAY have been played.  A particularly interesting one
was  WHEN THE KING ENJOYS HIS OWN AGAIN.  While I did not want to embarass
our good UK friends at the site, the tune is better known to us Yanks as THE
WORLD TURNED UPSIDE DOWN which the British fifers and drummers played at
Cornwallis' surrender at Yorktown!!!!  What a small world!!!

Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Weiss" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: English National Songs ca. 1607


> My immediate thoughts for further investigation go to the English Folk
> Song and Dance Society:
> http://www.efdss.org/
> There are titles from 16th and 17th centuries at
> http://www.contemplator.com/england/
>
> John Weiss
> Independent researcher, London
>
> Randy Cabell wrote:
>
>>With the discovery of a trumpet mouthpiece in a trashpit at Jamestowne, it
>>goes without saying that I am now off on a brand new 'project' :)))  Since
>>trumpeters of that time were generally members of guilds and secrecy
>>demanded that they never write anything down, it is difficult to find what
>>this trumpeter might have played.  But I have already (re-) constructed a
>>dozen or so might-have-beens.
>>
>>The biggest problem that I have is the lack of ANY English national song
>>that may have been brought to Jamestowne.  As an example, the Dutch came
>>up with "William of Nassau - The Prince of Orange" about 50 years earlier,
>>and short of "The Marseillaise", it is about the most inspring tune I have
>>ever heard.  (If you want an MP3 file of 3 trumpets and kettledrums
>>playing it, drop me a note off-list.)
>>
>>The National Songs we traditionally associate with England did not come on
>>for another 100-150 years.  "God Save the King", "Rule Britannia", "Roast
>>Boeff of Old England", "Marlbrouck", etc.  The lusty bowmen of Olde
>>England and their nautical counterparts with Sir Francis Drake MUST have
>>sung and/or marched to something stirring.
>>
>>At the moment all  I can find are "Penny Merriments" i.e. pop songs of the
>>day some of which though with interesting titles like "Susanna faire,
>>sometimes assaulted was", are not generally what we associate with
>>storming the battlements of fortified townes.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>Randy Cabell
>>
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