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Anne Pemberton <[log in to unmask]>
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John,

I have replied to this personally since this is a history list rather than 
current events.

Anne

Anne Pemberton
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http://www.erols.com/apembert
http://www.educationalsynthesis.org
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Philip Adams" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: Washington's Earliest Ancestor


> Take your own advice
> BTW
> John McCain is a war hero, who sacrificed 5 years of his life in Hanoi and
> deserves a tad bit more respect and decency before declaring him a tired 
> old
> man and your hero Barry Obama as the most intelligent and brilliant person
> since Socrates. I would afford Senator McCain a bit more honor and respect
> at least for his service as a pilot and a long term US senator.
>
> JPA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anne Pemberton
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:30 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Washington's Earliest Ancestor
>
> John,
>
> Maybe you should take a course in discussion and discourse before presume 
> to
>
> tell someone what should be known before asking a question seeking details
> on an assertion. I provided the name of "a book" that I am reading. If you
> missed it, the book is: "An Imperfect God - George Washington - His Slaves
> and the Creation of America" by Henry Wiencek of this list. The book 
> appears
>
> to be rather well researched and the author visited descendents of George
> Washington living in the place of his birth to gather information for the
> book.
>
> If you are so up on your geneology, why is it so hard for you to list the
> people between this Martiou guy and John Washington?
>
> Anne
>
> Anne Pemberton
> [log in to unmask]
> http://www.erols.com/apembert
> http://www.educationalsynthesis.org
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Philip Adams" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Washington's Earliest Ancestor
>
>
>> Nicholas Martiou's wife is Jane Berkeley is the daughter of Henry
>> Berkeley,
>> 12Th Baron Berkeley.
>> So let's try this again. Washington is descendant of the Berkeley's of
>> England. Maybe Ms. Pemberton should take a genealogy course before
>> espousing
>> the plebian qualities of George Washington.
>> Let's do some research before we believe 'a book' regarding the FOUNDING
>> FATHER OF OUR COUNTRY.
>> John Philip Adams
>> Texas
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anne Pemberton
>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:58 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Washington's Earliest Ancestor
>>
>> Connie,
>>
>> Could you flesh out that descendency from Martiou to George Washington?
>>
>> My understanding is that John Washington married the daughter of 
>> Nathanial
>> Pope, Ann, if I remember correctly. Is the connection from Martiou to Ann
>> Pope?
>>
>> Anne
>>
>> Anne Pemberton
>> [log in to unmask]
>> http://www.erols.com/apembert
>> http://www.educationalsynthesis.org
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Connie Lapallo" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Washington's Earliest Ancestor
>>
>>
>> Anne wrote: "I hate to burst your bubble but...George Washington's
>> earliest
>> ancestor was John Washington who came to Northern Neck as a ship's mate,
>> and married well...."
>>
>>
>> Actually, no.
>>
>> John Washington was only George's earliest ancestor named Washington--not
>> his earliest American ancestor. That was Captain Nicholas Martiau 
>> (spelled
>> various ways, including "Marten") Martiau was a French Huguenot who
>> arrived
>> in 1620 on the Francis Bonaventure. He was a French military engineer, a
>> Justice of the Court of York, a member of the House of Burgesses, and a
>> signer of the rebuttal concerning living conditions in the colony from
>> 1607
>> to
>> 1619. In 1640, he was granted 1,300 acres (a fairly large tract in those
>> days).
>> He called his home "York," which is part of today's Yorktown.
>>
>> Martiau also built a fort, called "Martiau's fort," the subject of a 1989
>> dig. In
>> its report, the APVA states, "The fort was likely constructed c. 1630 by
>> Nicolas Martiau, a trained French military engineer and owner of the land
>> were
>> the fort was situated."
>>
>> In 1635, Martiau was a leader in the uprising against Royal Governor John
>> Harvey, an important event in Virginia's early history. The meeting which
>> eventually led to Harvey's ousting took place, ironically, near Martiau's
>> house
>> and likely just a few hundred yards from the site of the later surrender
>> of
>> Cornwallis to General George Washington, Martiau's great-great-great
>> grandson at Yorktown.
>>
>> A stone marker, dedicated in 1631 by Gen. Pershing, reads:
>>
>> SITE OF THE HOME OF
>>
>> NICOLAS MARTIAU
>>
>> THE ADVENTUROUS HUGUENOT
>>
>> HE WAS BORN IN FRANCE 1591
>>
>> CAME TO VIRGINIA 1620
>>
>> AND DIED IN YORKTOWN 1657
>>
>> HE WAS A CAPTAIN IN THE INDIAN UPRISING
>>
>> A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OF BURGESSES
>>
>> JUSTICE OF THE COURT OF YORK
>>
>> IN 1635 A LEADER
>>
>> IN THE THRUSTING OUT OF GOVERNOR HARVEY
>>
>> WHICH WAS THE FIRST OPPOSITION
>>
>> IN THE BRITISH COLONIAL POLICY.
>>
>> THE ORIGINAL PATENTEE FOR YORKTOWN
>>
>> AND THROUGH THE MARRIAGE
>>
>> OF HIS DAUGHTER ELIZABETH
>>
>> TO COL. GEORGE READ HE BECAME
>>
>> THE EARLIEST AMERICAN ANCESTOR OF BOTH
>>
>> GEN. GEORGE WASHINGTON
>>
>> AND GOVERNOR THOMAS NELSON
>>
>>
>> Like his grandson, Martiau was a leader of his time.
>>
>>
>> Connie Lapallo
>> Author of
>> DARK ENOUGH TO SEE THE STARS IN A JAMESTOWN SKY
>> And its upcoming sequel
>> THE SUN IS BUT A MORNING STAR IN A JAMESTOWN SKY
>> www.ConnieLapallo.com
>>
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