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"Lyle E. Browning" <[log in to unmask]>
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Waitaholdit. If SH had a child by someone whose DNA is not a Jefferson  
and one by someone whose was a Jefferson, that perforce indicates two  
fathers. IF the non-Jefferson child was hers, that is. As it stands  
now DNA says that some Jefferson fathered one child, and one was not  
part of the Jefferson lineage. You can't cross that line of argument  
to go where you state. If one isn't part of the Jefferson lineage,  
then it does prove, if the child was indeed SH's, that SH had children  
by more than 1 male.

If a Jefferson had been the father, the DNA would have so indicated,  
however diluted.

Lyle Browning


On Oct 12, 2008, at 8:04 PM, Paul Finkelman wrote:

> We can agree with all but number 6  which is not proved; that is the  
> DNA test on one of the alleged descendants of Sally Hemings did not  
> match TJ's DNA but this does not prove that TJ did not father all of  
> Sally's children, it may prove that somewhere along the way someone  
> else was the father or mother of a child and it broke the TJ DNA  
> line but that teh family did not know this; these things happen over  
> time and in many families.
>
> For 8 it is ALL the pregnancies we know of.
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:01 AM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Let us see if we can agree on some basic facts--what can we say  
>> about Sally
>> Hemings that no one is likely to dispute.
>>
>> 1.  She was a slave.
>> 2.  She belonged to Thomas Jefferson
>> 3.  She had several children
>> 4.  She was the half sister of Jefferson's wife
>> 5.  She accompanied Jefferson to France
>> 6.  She had children by more than one man
>> 7.  The father of one of her children was descended from Thomas  
>> Jefferson's
>> paternal grandfather--that is to say, we can narrow the list of  
>> possible
>> fathers for this child to Thomas Jefferson, his paternal uncles,  
>> and his
>> paternal cousins
>> 8.  Most (all?) of Heming's pregnancies correspond with times when
>> Jefferson was at Monticello
>> 9.  During the years when Hemings was having children, Jefferson  
>> was rarely
>> at Monticello
>>
>> Can we agree that we know these things with reasonable certitude?
>>
>> All best,
>> Kevin
>> Kevin R. Hardwick, Ph.D.
>> Department of History
>> James Madison University
>>
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