"Han against Ming?????????"  What are you talking about?

The Ming Dynasty in China (roughly 1350 circa--1644) was the Han Chinese 
ruling family that governed China between the Yuan (Mongol) dynasty before 
and the Qing (Chi'ing) (Manchu = forest nomad) dynasty afterwards.

Chinese history does not fit neatly into this template of "racism" or 
"subalternism," etc.  For example, the Confucian-trained elite supported the 
Ming in their struggle to replace the Yuan, but when the Ming went into 
decline, this same elite spurned the ethnic-Han bandit leadership that 
aspired to the "Throne of Heaven," supporting instead the foreign Manchu 
against the Han insurgents,on the promise that the Han would rule in a 
proper Chinese/Confucian manner.

I should add that I sympathize with the point you make here but I think that 
problem is in comparing the long trajectory of a civilization (Sunni vs.. 
Shia fits here too, as it dates from the martyrdoms of Ali and Hussein in 
the 7th century) to the rather short history of the American South within 
the American nation:  a saga of less than two and one-half centuries.

best,

Harold S. Forsythe
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Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: The Law & Lynching


>I wholeheartedly agree with some aspects of Lyle Browning's post. Simply 
>put
> racism is the overt and covert actions of those in power who use their 
> power
> to subvert and dehumanize the less fortunate that are of another ethnic
> background. While in America, the mot overt and blatant was the
> dispossessions of peoples of African decent and of native American decent,
> there are more than enough examples to go around ~ i.e. Sunni against 
> Shia,
> Hutu versus Tutsi,  Han against Ming.
>
> Yet, we must remember that it all leads back to the first premise. One 
> must
> on some occasion gather enough testicular fortitude to speak out against
> injustice. For He who said, "... let him who is without sin cast the first
> stone ...." also stated "... in as much as you do it to the least of 
> these,
> you have done it unto me ...."
>
> Therefore, as genealogists we must learn from the past and speak boldly 
> and
> with power against the wrongs of today. Maybe a frank and open discussion
> could have lessened the blow to the economy, the country, and to families 
> of
> the "Great Incivility Due to Northern Aggression".
>
> Glenn Gregory