Pardon me, Anne, but here is a review of Kukla's book (from History News
Network), hardly a good reference for an 'eye-opening' broadening of
knowledge:
http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/46786.html
While reading, note this reviewer doesn't even understand true results of
the pertinent DNA testing, apparently from false and misleading results
being repeated so much by the TJ-bashing bandwagon.
Also, what is your reference for stating TJ was a pimp by offering SH's body
to family members?
Further, in your posting late last night, you alluded to "damning evidence"
against TJ, in quotes (<--note this is plural) from his "student diaries on
the subject of sexual relief outside of marriage." From the 27,000+/-
documents in the TJ collection at the Library of Congress, including several
types of commonplace books, you must be referring to TJ's Literary
Commonplace Book (singular.) He started this in 1858, at about age 15,
while attending school of the Rev. James Maury -- the book being his
collection of extracts from Greek, Latin and English literature -- that he
discontinued before he married. Which page number(s) is/are your
reference(s) for the "damning evidence" I am wondering. Do you even know?
Were your so-called 'quotes' supposedly those by TJ personally or an excerpt
from a source authored by another?
Those who use falsehoods and who 'twist' words and facts toward defaming
Thomas Jefferson have constructed their own bandwagon I understand (can't
recall where I heard this but from many sources so it's obviously true.)
Neil McDonald
For clarification as to below, I believe Brent said to only retain the most
essential portions of a prior posting, not that we need to delete prior
postings completely.
From: "Anne Pemberton" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:16 AM
>...I strongly suggest that you read "Jefferson's Women" by John Kukla and
>acquaint yourself with the broader picture of Jefferson's relationships
>with women to the extent they are documented in his writings and the
>writings of others. It will open your eyes to the reality of the man you
>seem to consider a saint.
> snip/continue
> And, while you may have a point that mere presence does not make one a
> pimp, the fact that Jefferson was the OWNER of Sally Hemings and had legal
> control over all of her actions, makes his offering of her body to family
> members the act of a pimp.
>snip
>
> Anne (and, further below)
From: "Anne Pemberton" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:55 PM
Excerpt:
>One of the more damning pieces of circumstantial evidence are quotes from
>TJ's student diaries on the subject of sexual relief outside of marriage.
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