There is an awful lot of the old speech and customs that have
continued on in the south, along the coast, and in Virginia in
particular; customs and fashions that died out and were replaced in
England, but here, in the isolation of the colonies, they were
maintained. Words like shuck and tote and others, for ex., which are
straight from the 17th century. The book "Albion's Seed- four British
folkways in America" is a fascinating exploration of this topic. When
the Irish traditional music group The Chieftans visited Appalachia,
they were amazed that they recognized many of the traditional
Appalachian folk tunes as the same old songs that were still played
in Ireland.

Nancy

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I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days.

--Daniel Boone



On Jan 6, 2007, at 11:10 PM, Mildred Fournier wrote:

> I am Alabama born and bred and Jordan is JERR den there, too.  I
> didn't know
> it was Elizabethan, though. I assumed it was just a Southern thing.
>
> Mildred "Mickey" Fournier
> 1730 SE County Rd 252
> Lake City, FL 32025-1703
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> Subject: Re: Jordan's Journey
>
> Some of the places along the coast, the Outer Banks of NC, etc. that
> retain that Elizabethan speech still pronounce it "JERR den". I may
> be mis-remembering, but President Carter had a fellow Georgian on
> staff, Hamilton Jordan, and I think they pronounced that "JERR den",
> too.
>
> Nancy
>
> -------
> I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days.
>
> --Daniel Boone
>
>
>
> On Jan 6, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Connie Lapallo wrote:
>
>> Hi Neil,
>>
>> I wrote a novel (Dark Enough to See the Stars in a Jamestown Sky)
>> based on
>> Joan Peirce and her daughter Cecily Reynolds. Cecily's second
>> husband was
>> Samuel Jordan of Jordan's Journey. Samuel was a character in the
>> book, but
>> will play a more important role in the sequel. I'm writing the
>> sequel now,
>> which will largely focus on Cecily's life, including her marriage to
>> Samuel and the development of Jordan's Journey. I'm a descendent of
>> Cecily
>> from her first marriage to a Bailey.
>>
>> My research for the sequel is still in progress, but I can tell you
>> that
>> you're correct that there's no definitive proof (that I'm aware of)
>> that
>> Samuel was a passenger on the Sea Venture. However, he received a
>> land
>> grant on 10 December 1620 which listed him as a "an ancient planter
>> who
>> hath abode ten yeares compleat in this Colony." From this, we know he
>> either came on the Patience and Deliverance (with the Sea Venture
>> survivors) or on De La Warr's ships in June 1610. He appeared to
>> have a
>> strong military background (suggested by how well-fortified Jordan's
>> Journey was and the similarity of its structures to those of an Irish
>> bawn.) I believe he was probably in the group of mercenaries left
>> without
>> work when a truce was called in the Lowlands in 1609. His (probable)
>> distant cousin Silvester was definitely on the Sea Venture, and his
>> first
>> cousin's (Joan Peirce's) husband was also on there. I think the Sea
>> Venture is a sound assumption, though not definite.
>>
>> The name "Beggar's Bush" was probably a corruption of "Biker's
>> Bush." The
>> neighboring land was that of William Biker, and there is a Bicker's
>> Creek
>> on present day maps near there as well. Please see W&M Quarterly,
>> April
>> 1941, p.180-181 for a more detailed explanation.
>>
>> Samuel would have pronounced his name "JERR-den." His ancestors
>> probably
>> came to England from France after the Hundred Years war. This
>> distinct
>> pronounciation survived in Virginia for many years, and is
>> distinguishable
>> from the ancient family of English Jordans who pronounce it more
>> as we
>> would expect: "JOR-den".  Given that, "Jordan's Journey" was much
>> more
>> alliterative than it appears on paper!
>>
>> I love the charcter of Sam Jordan and am eager to do more research
>> on him.
>>
>> Best of luck. I hope this helps.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Connie Lapallo
>> author of DARK ENOUGH TO SEE THE STARS IN A JAMESTOWN SKY
>> www.ConnieLapallo.com
>>
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