It seems to me that you are rather broad-brushing the issue. Outright
rape was and is illegal, despite the roadblocks that were put into
place to exclude blacks from the courtroom.
Coercion, both overt and covert, undeniably took place. But your claim
exceeds the bounds when it asserts that all such acts were coercive.
You are also of the mindset that the impetus was directly and only
from the male. Bimbette of 20 snares rich old guy of 80 springs to
mind. Purity of heart is not a universal, nor is venality, but it does
exist.
There are those situations which resulted in the marriage of the two
individuals of different races.
Life is way more complicated and it is difficult if not impossible to
ascertain absolutes in individual cases. Historic trends rely on
safety in numbers as to results, but as to motive, debates will
continue.
Lyle Browning
On Oct 1, 2008, at 10:03 PM, Anne Pemberton wrote:
> Herbert,
>
> I seriously doubt that you have found any of those authors "with
> their hand in the till" to any greater extent than that of any other
> author who write a book and expects to profit from the sales. Your
> constant mischaracterization of people you don't know beans about is
> one more nail in the coffin of your idea of "truth" vs "lies".
>
> As to my website, it is a volunteer effort on my part and the site
> is provided by a charitable organization, The Enabling Support
> Foundation http://www.enabling.org founded by a good friend, Dr.
> Robert Zenhausern who provides all funding for the foundation and
> supports the server my works lives on. You may find it of interest
> that my first website was on Virginia's PEN (it has only come off in
> the past few months since I no longer keep it up). I assume that you
> would know that Virginia's PEN, for which I was one of the original
> builders, was the joint project of the DOE and UVA. I ran the
> Academy One project on Virginia's PEN, which was the forerunner of
> Educational Synthesis: http://www.educationalsynthesis.org
>
> You may also note that my website ends with a "org". That means I do
> not market ANYTHING! The stories I write both under My Own Books and
> Famous Americans, are free to any user, and the users are from just
> about every country in the world. I have, as an aside, written one
> book, but it is not on history, which is sold in a paper version. I
> do not "advertise" it on this list and am not doing so now.
>
> Now, as to miscegynation, it is a disgrace when practiced, as is
> evident in the current population in Virginia, without the consent
> of the woman. As a slave, the woman had no right to refuse the
> master anything he ordered, whether it was to service his needs, or
> that of his friends and relatives. To assert that this cannot be
> "proved" without an admission of the white man, is to continue, in
> the 21st century, the abusive mindset of the time of slavery. Every
> one of those half-white children had a father, and with today's
> scientific advancements, and those that will come tomorrow, it IS
> possible to ascertain with scientific certainty which white man did
> the deed. White men who practice abusive sex are no longer shielded
> by the notion that only those children they "acknowledge" are theirs.
>
> And, it is assertions such as you made today about mixed race
> children being "fatherless" unless the skunk who did it chooses to
> "fess up" that is the reason behind my statement that Jefferson,
> being a man and a Virginian, and with the circumstancial evidence
> I've personally examined, is highly likely to be the father of Sally
> Hemings children. And, if he is not the father, but the uncle, he
> was a PIMP!
>
> Anne
>
>
>
> Anne Pemberton
> [log in to unmask]
> http://www.erols.com/apembert
> http://www.educationalsynthesis.org
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert Barger" <[log in to unmask]
> >
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:25 PM
> Subject: Re: What is the current defination of "revisionist history"?
>
>
>> Anne,
>>
>> If evidence found and supported by science or other provable
>> historical
>> records then I would consider that "historical information." On the
>> other hand, if the researchers were "caught with their hand in the
>> till"
>> as I have found with people around the TJ/Sally controversy and their
>> reports were biased/one sided and denied and HID a Minority Report
>> and
>> the head researcher had been hired to complement the study with their
>> owned preconceived outcome........THEN I would say, "it's revisionist
>> garbage."
>>
>> I would hope that your own highly advertised organization on these
>> (state/commonwealth) supported pages, is not misrepresenting real
>> research to purchasers of your material. You do ask for proof do you
>> not?
>>
>> Herb Barger
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Herbert,
>>
>> I believe I am correct in saying that most historians of the last
>> century
>> were in agreement that Sumer (Sumeria) was the earliest civilization.
>>
>> Then, if I am reading a book that dates evidence of cities with
>> public
>> buildings and agriculture in Peru to at least as far back as 3500 BC
>> based
>> on evidence discovered in this century, would you consider that new
>> historical information, or "revisionist history"????
>>
>> Anne
>>
>> Anne Pemberton
>> [log in to unmask]
>> http://www.erols.com/apembert
>> http://www.educationalsynthesis.org
>>
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