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Anne, you offer a half-hearted apology to the list, then try to include me 
with 'your side.'  I don't understand why you believe 'the other side' is so 
scholarly -- you apparently haven't investigated even one of many challenges 
to the accuracy and merits of their many claims.  'Scholarly' means so much 
more than an academic process.  But it seems you indeed do recognize the 
culture wars do exist and are indeed important -- just as Joseph Ellis and 
others of your 'the other side' have told and directed you.  There is no 
turncoat here, I don't know why/how you ever thought this was possible. 
I'll stick with my independent beliefs as I have presented them at VA-HIST.

Neil McDonald

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anne Pemberton" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] What is the current defination of "revisionist 
history"?


> Neil,
>
> I realize I was pretty angry when I replied to Herbert. Not only does he 
> assign motives to people without knowing what he's talking about, he also 
> cast aspersions regarding my use of this listserve supported by my tax 
> moneys. Enough was enough!
>
> Ten years from now, we will know whether or not he is right or wrong about 
> Jefferson. Science will advance to where the question is decided by DNA or 
> other forensic means rather than by whether or not he is a Founding 
> Father.
>
> I wish you luck in your pursuit of the data in Kukla's book and hope that 
> you, at least, will realize that those who write "the other side" are not 
> the scoundrels that Herbert paints them as. As we both learned last night, 
> the research into "the other side" is probably more scholarly than 
> Herbert's protestations.
>
> Anne
>
>
>
> Anne Pemberton
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> http://www.educationalsynthesis.org
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "macbd1" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 12:15 AM
> Subject: Re: What is the current defination of "revisionist history"?
>
>
>> Anne, your 'off the wall' multi-faceted rant to Herb, and prior ones, 
>> leads me to address all of your points very directly, one by one, just as 
>> A.G-R did when she responded to Herb's questions at her book bally-hoo 
>> for Washington Post, and at prior times:
>>
>> You are just wrong in so many ways, too many ways for me to begin to 
>> state. If I tried with all my powers, I could not begin to exaggerate how 
>> wrong you are. You can't have read any of my postings, certainly not the 
>> ones that just came out a week and you resonded vehemently for days after 
>> that. I have never said I believe I believe you. No one who has read my 
>> postings could ever claim that and certainly not one who read the second. 
>> I am not attacking you. I think you are among the greatest VA-HIST 
>> posters who ever lived, including your many flaws and being absolutely 
>> wrong-minded  and all. Period.
>>
>> Neil McDonald
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Anne Pemberton" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] What is the current defination of "revisionist 
>> history"?
>>
>>
>>> Herbert,
>>>
>>
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