Mr. Southmayd--you may want to read Pryor's "Reading the Man," about R.E. Lee. I would say it might change your opinion about stains.
John Maass, Ph.D.
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Amazing that Robert E. Lee remains the one great unstained American.
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> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:52:19 -0500
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: (VA-HIST] "The Monster of Monticello"
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> In his novel, The Human Stain, Philip Roth notes that one of America's
> oldest communal passions is to indulge in the "ecstasy of sanctimony." We feel
> good and morally superior by condemning the moral failings of others, past
> and present. I think it is particularly important for those of us
> dedicated to a study of the past to guard against falling into the dangerous
> condition of the "ecstasy of sanctimony." It affects those on both the right and
> left wings of the political spectrum.
>
> Peter Henriques
>
>
> In a message dated 12/11/2012 9:42:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Thank you! Very few extraordinary men have totally clean slates of
> behavior. It seems a bit juvenile to condemn the man and everything he
> accomplished instead of condemning the (disappointing and unexpected by "fans") bad
> behavior as a part of that human being. The emotion about this subject never
> ceases to amaze me. Expecting our heroes to be saints is very concrete
> thinking.
>
> Sent from Melinda's
> iPad
>
> On Dec 11, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Steve Corneliussen <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Mr. Barger complained that Monticello's "emphasis...on slavery issues"
> comes "at the expense of Mr. Jefferson." To me that seems upside down. The
> emphasis in fact honors Mr. Jefferson.
> >
> > Mr. Jefferson matters because self-evident but challenging truths
> matter. It's too bad that Monticello, like the rest of us, failed for many
> decades to begin elucidating and respecting the lives, dignity and contributions
> of individual Americans obscenely oppressed by fellow Americans --
> including by Mr. Jefferson, the paradoxically slaveholding human-rights idealist.
> >
> > If Monticello had continued its former Gone-with-the-Windism on slavery
> late into the last century, if the curators had persisted in obscuring
> Americans' lives on that mountain, it would have been the foundation's civic,
> historical and moral negligence that would have come at the expense of Mr.
> Jefferson.
> >
> > But they got it right. Good for them. Good for self-evident truths.
> >
> > Good for Mr. Jefferson.
> >
> > Steven T. Corneliussen
> > http://www.fortmonroenationalpark.org/
> > http://tjscience.org/
> > http://www.physicstoday.org/daily_edition/science_and_the_media
> >
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