I have a hard time envisioning how those who espouse hate today, influenced 
those in the past. I mean that would be quite a feat wouldn't it? I would 
argue the opposite, that some of those with hate speech take their cue from 
events of the past.  Free Speech is one thing, but when people (usually 
someone deranged), acts on that speech, you can be held liable. This is what 
happened with a young man was lynched (I believe in the 1970's), and his 
mother sued the KKK (I believe it was in Alabama). Also there was a case of 
an Ethopian, who was beat to death with a bat in Washington State, by a 
skinhead.  I believe his family also sued the KKK.

The difference between recent events, and history , is that there are laws 
in place now. There were no laws, or ineffective laws to deal with the 
lynchings of the past. This topic is about historical events, and not recent 
events, and that is the point I attempted to make to Lylye. However, there 
are those on the list who have objectives other than History.

Anita


>From: qvarizona <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history         
>      <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: The Law & Lynching
>Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:56:24 -0700
>
>Anita,
>
>Do you think the Commonwealth of Virginia ever existed in a vacuum?
>
>--Joanne
>
>
>
>Anita Wills <[log in to unmask]> wrote: I see a problem with the logic 
>here. We are talking about Virginia history,
>and you continue to bring in events that happened in the recent past. If 
>you
>stick to the topic, you may get some helpful responses.
>
>Anita
> >From: "Lyle E. Browning"
> >Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
> >
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: The Law & Lynching
> >Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:08:57 -0400
> >
> >By your logic, then only German and Austrian Nazis qualify? None of  the
> >other nationalities? No Nazis who moved to South America? No neo- Nazi
> >skinheads, White Aryan Nation types, of the more recent  mutations, etc.
> >etc. etc.?
> >
> >I do not ascribe to the hyper-relativist argument as it only leads to  
>the
> >bad guys proliferating. Once again, Hitler was an insignificant  small
> >group of 1 who metastasized into the full-blown horror.  Likewise the
> >growth of Islamic extremists or you name the group  starts with a few and
> >grows into the many.
> >
> >My view on them is quite simple. Stomp the hell out of all of them,
> >regardless of origin.
> >
> >If that is still incomprehensible to you, we agree to disagree, with  my
> >sympathies.
> >
> >Lyle Browning, RPA
> >
> >
> >On Jun 25, 2007, at 11:31 PM, Anne Pemberton wrote:
> >
> >>Lyle,
> >>
> >>Your last response reminds of the old "one drop rule" whereby if a
> >>person's heritage include "one drop" of non-white blood, they were
> >>"demoted" to the discriminated-against group.
> >>
> >>Why does it bother you so much that a handful of African-American  MAY 
>be
> >>racists when there are still so many white-Americans who  still boldly
> >>express their racism. If one racist is one too many,  it seems you 
>should
> >>focus your scolding on the largest groups,  rather than the
> >>insignificantly small group.
> >>
> >>Let's clean up our own boots before we point to the mud on our  
>neighbor's
> >>boots.
> >>
> >>Anne
> >>
> >>
> >>Anne Pemberton
> >>[log in to unmask]
> >>http://www.erols.com/apembert
> >>http://www.educationalsynthesis.org
>
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