Anita, I must say I am surprised at your reaction.  I was not looking for 
glamour in history, why do you even make such a statement -- I was simply 
offering a correction to your misleading statement that "...there were not a 
lot of English and Irish marriages in Colonial America."  I also do not 
understand the harshness of your response.  I pulled two history texts off 
the shelf because they were handy: Scotch-Irish by Leyburn and Albion's Seed 
by Fischer.  Both speak of the common values and beliefs of the lowland 
Scots (who emigrated to Ulster Ireland) and Scots and English borderland 
people and how their subsequent settlement in common areas of Colonial 
America (including frontier VA and present WV) led to common intermarriages 
between Scotch-'Irish' and English settlers.  While I would enjoy listing 
important Scotch-Irish contributers and leaders of the American Revolution 
and its further causes, responding to your incendiary and false commentary 
is not worth the bother as it seems likely at this point that you would only 
add more.

Neil McDonald

From: "Anita Wills" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Mulatto +Scotch-Irish


The Scotch English did not consider the Scotch Irish as their social equal. 
Marriages were not common between the two groups. Most English (Anglos) were 
Episcopalian, and the Scotch Irish were Presybeterians. The Scotch-Irish did 
the dirty work for the English, such as killing the Indians, and overseeing 
slaves. In Britain they were seen as a little higher on the Social scale 
then the Irish.

History is not always glamorous.

From: "macbd1" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Mulatto +Scotch-Irish


> Colonial American 'Irish' were mostly 'Scotch-Irish' emigrating Northern
> Ireland during 1700-1775.  For the most part they moved into the inland
> areas of MD-PA and many thence to frontier areas of VA and further south 
> but
> including a 'new' frontier of western PA by the mid-late 1700's -- along
> with many English frontiersmen from the Scots-English borderland area and
> other English origins.  So English-'Irish' marriages were indeed fairly
> common in frontier areas of Colonial America.  Comparatively, there 
> weren't
> many Irish immigrants in Eastern Seaboard areas in Colonial American 
> times,
> these came later resulting from the potato famines.
>
> Neil McDonald

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