May I suggest sir, that since many accuse Virginia and Texas off similar
qualities, all good I am sure, that we combine forces. Texas secedes, again.
Virginia, immediately asked to become the State of Virginia in the NEW
Republic of Texas and we would now have ports on the Atlantic and the Gulf
of Mexico. I also suggest that we nationalize the military bases in our
country or at least charge the yankees rent. You all have any oil off your
coast we could drill for some oil or put up some wind mills.
You know Boone Pickens put 40,000 acres in west Texas for renewable energy.
We can do the same over there.
GOOD Luck.
John Philip Adams
Texas
-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lyle E. Browning
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:02 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: 07011920Z08 Superlatives
I think you youngsters really ought to get your history straight.
Virginia should, by all rights, reclaim all our smaller counties, like
Kentucky, Ohio, etc. and pull back into the fold all that territory
originally granted in the original VA charter being 200 miles north
and south of the Virginia capes and west to the Pacific. But, I do
believe that VA allowed these counties to separate themselves
peaceably from the greater territory, recognizing them as current
adolescents in need of guidance. I don't know that Texas would be
pulled in as it wasn't then part and is too full of hot weather,
rattlesnakes and temperamental folks. Likewise New England wouldn't be
needed as too full of cold weather, moose and taciturn folks you can't
engage in conversation.
Lyle Browning, RPA
On Jul 1, 2008, at 10:44 PM, John Philip Adams wrote:
> 1. Secession - Declaration of Independence. READ IT this is where the
> concept of secession was espoused by the Honorable Thomas Jefferson,
> and the
> founders of our country.
> 2. Texas - is the only State that may have the LEGAL right to secede.
> When we contracted to become a state, this codicil was included in our
> contract - treaty. We also have or had the right to divide into FIVE
> states
> and really antagonize the rest of you all.
> 3. If Texas were to secede and regain our original territory, we would
> regain most of New Mexico, Colorado and parts of Oklahoma.
> 4. Texas would become the 6th largest member of OPEC. We would also
> be
> drilling off the coast of Florida, California, New Jersey just like
> Cuba and
> China as well as processing all of those oil sands in our northern
> counties
> of Texas called Colorado.
> 5. Not counting the mineral deposits of Uranium, Gold and other heavy
> metals in our western state of New Mexico.
> The good part is we would lead the way in renewable industry, wind and
> Hydroelectric as well as our numerous refineries to send to the rest
> of the
> US at 140 per barrel. I remember when the rest of the country was
> mad at
> Texas when oil was $36 per barrel, I wonder what it will be like at
> $150 per
> barrel.
> Thanks
> John Philip Adams
> Texas
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Walter Waddell
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:25 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: 07011920Z08 Superlatives
>
> Using superlatives.
>
> I have finished reading the U.S. Constitution and its several
> Amendments.
> There is no mention of "secession"
> (formal withdrawal or separation), either for or against.
> Specifically, the
> Congress has the power to "suppress"
> (physically crush) "insurrections" (physical acts of revolt and
> uprising
> against established authority). (By the
> by: the "Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus" may "be suspended"
> should
> "the public Safety.require it". Thus,
> the phase: "The Constitution is not a suicide pact" is aptly put. One
> wonders if the "lofty Nine" have even read
> the Constitution let alone reviewed it from time to time).
>
> And therein lies the rub: If one chooses to brand "any" (all
> inclusive, no
> exceptions) display of dissatisfaction
> with our Union, then "secession" is an act of treason and suffer the
> consequences.
>
> If thinking, talking, writing, and petitioning for a formal
> withdrawal or
> separation, albeit in a non inflammatory
> manner (no yelling "fire" in a crowded theater), are reasoned by
> reasonable
> persons to be a proper and orderly ways
> to display dissatisfaction with our Union; and I hope that these so
> described "actions" remain firm fixtures for
> expression about our Republic, then secession is a viable and legal
> course
> for the many to follow.
>
> Even if Virginia had acted only in manner(s) so described by the
> preceding
> paragraph (no acts of violence or
> inflammatory speech), she still would have been in a state of
> "insurrection"
> since the Constitution specifically
> forbids each of the several states from entering "into any Treaty,
> Alliance,
> or Confederation.."
>
> As I have stated before, when one or two the western states is so
> populated
> with a specific "tribe" and that
> "tribe" has its representatives in overwhelming control of the state's
> government, this issue, secession, will
> appear on the "radar". I would love to be around to see if my
> forecast comes
> true.
>
> And finally: Democracy is nothing if but a very short step from
> tyranny by
> the majority. Majority rules!
>
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