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What I've always heard about the records for Rockingham County is that they were on wagons being transported elsewhere for safety, some Union troops happened upon them and set fire to them, and some records were destroyed as a result while others survived. I can't think of where I read this right now. It might have been in Robinson's Virginia Counties in a footnote or in a history of Rockingham County.

Eric

Eric G. Grundset
Library Director
DAR Library
National Society Daughters of the American Revolution
1776 D St., N.W.
Washington, DC 20006-5303
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From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of David Kiracofe
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:56 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Anniversary celebrations in the 21st century


Once upon a time, I was in the Rockingham County Courthouse doing some
of my dissertation research, and on the wall of the poorly ventilated,
little attic room where the "historical" records were stored (archivists
may shudder now) was a typed notice that any gaps in records were there
because of General Sheridan.  There were also a couple of old photos
showing some of the depredations in the area.  Here's a question, then,
did Sheridan target courthouses to destroy records?  I know the British
had done this duirng the American Revolution in 1780-81 -- hence the
gaps in some of our colonial records.  Anyone know an answer?

David Kiracofe

David Kiracofe
History
Tidewater Community College
Chesapeake Campus
1428 Cedar Road
Chesapeake, Virginia 23322
757-822-5136
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Mr. Bonis, there is no "fun" in the human pain and loss incurred on all
sides of the war.  One does not tastefully compare the devastation of
war to
the minor event of burning a supply train.

Oh, yes, and wasn't Sheridan, at the orders of Grant and Sherman, the
great
Indian destroyer?  Oh, yes--- just following orders, like in his
depredations in the Valley.

If you want to poke fun at war, make it something humorous, like
stealing a
General's frock coat, or better yet, stealing a General himself.

As to a Jamestown celebration, I doubt 2007 will outdo 1957 which I was
fortunate to attend, or 1907 for which I wasn't yet present.

Joan Logan Brooks
a Southside Virginian through 11 proven generations

and a great-granddaughter of a Yankee too cowardly to serve the Union




----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Bonis" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Anniversary celebrations in the 21st century


>I was just responding with a little humor to Mr. Cabell's remarks who
>wrote:
>
> "I'm hardpressed to think of any GREATEST since (reading of) Col.
Mosby
> welcoing Gen. Sheridan to the northwest corner of
> Virginia by burning his supply train, north of Berryville."
>
> By the way, Gen. Sheridan (*Philip Hendry Shridan*) had a very fine
time
> in Virginia.      "Here he contested Gen. Early's Confederate troops,
> destroyed crops which were the breadbasket of the Confederate army,
> defeated and killed Gen. J.E.B. Stuart (famous cavalry leader of the
> south) and eventually, in the battle of Cedar Creek, drove Early out
of
> the valley. As the war neared its end Sheridan was the leader in
forcing
> Gen. Lee out of his Petersburg, Va. defenses and eventually cutting
off
> his retreat at Appomattox Court House." [From
> www.netpluscom.com/~pchs/sheridan.htm]
>
> He was a very effective Yankee General in Virginia.  Maybe if he could
> magically be in charge of promoting Jamestown 2007 celebrations the
> prospects for its success would be much improved.
>
> Ray B.       ;-)
>
>
> Joan Brooks wrote:
>
>> Mr. Bonis, please make your snide remarks elsewhere.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ray Bonis" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Anniversary celebrations in the 21st century
>>
>>
>>> Actually, the last GREATEST excitment was when Lee gave up and the
North
>>> won.  Now that was fun.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ray B.
>>>
>>>
>>> Randy Cabell wrote:
>>>
>>>> Very well said.  Maybe its just my getting older, but I also now
>>>> really want
>>>> to look into Virginia and family things within the larger context
of
>>>> what
>>>> was going on.
>>>>
>>>> re the biggest "excitement" and the hope that Jamestowne things
will
>>>> heat up
>>>> as we approach it, I say Amen.  Lets see...... our biggest
excitement
>>>> was...... hmmmmm.....  I'm hardpressed to think of any GREATEST
since
>>>> (reading of) Col. Mosby welcoing Gen. Sheridan to the northwest
>>>> corner of
>>>> Virginia by burning his supply train, north of Berryville.
>>>>
>>>> Randy Cabell
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Anniversary celebrations in the 21st century
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I attended that conference in 2004 sponsored by the Omohundro
>>>>> Institute
>>>>> and
>>>>> I thought it was interesting mainly because it did put Jamestown
in a
>>>>> global
>>>>> context with information on other European nations, West Africa
and
>>>>> the
>>>>> Native
>>>>> Americans  that were here before the arrival of the British.
>>>>> Jamestown
>>>>> did
>>>>> not happen in a vacum, the whole world was on the move and surely
to
>>>>> understand
>>>>> Jamestown and the world that was created here can be better
understood
>>>>> with
>>>>> the backdrop.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know but I am going to assume that when we finally get
>>>>> closer to
>>>>> 2007
>>>>> there will be other conferences held in Williamsburg &
>>>>> Jamestown.......and
>>>>> I
>>>>> will be very appeciative if as a " local history buff" I am able
to
>>>>> attend.  I
>>>>> will say that the Jamestown 2007 Steering Committee has their work
>>>>> cut out
>>>>> for them because locally the biggest thing to happen in the area
in
>>>>> the
>>>>> last
>>>>> couple of years is the opening of the Bass Pro Shop off of 64,
maybe
>>>>> that
>>>>> has now
>>>>> be surpassed by the BRAC Commissions decision to close Fort
>>>>> Monroe....let
>>>>> the
>>>>> Condo building begin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Selma Stewart
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 2/21/2006 9:23:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>> [log in to unmask] writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What are we "celebrating," exactly?  The Omohundro Institute of
Early
>>>>>> >American History and Culture sponsored a very DEEP scholarly
confer-
>>>>>> >ence in 2004, almost ignoring Jamestown itself by placing it in
>>>>>> global
>>>>>> >context with West African tribal traditions circa 1607, etc.
The
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> >conference on the Jamestown Commemoration website that I saw was
>>>>>> >focused on modern democracy.  Better not go there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Ray Bonis
>>> Virginia Commonwealth University
>>> Special Collections and Archives
>>> James Branch Cabell Library
>>> Box 842033
>>> Richmond, VA 23284-2033
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> Ray Bonis
> Virginia Commonwealth University
> Special Collections and Archives
> James Branch Cabell Library
> Box 842033
> Richmond, VA 23284-2033
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