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You are right!! It is what it is. History was used in the description of the 
so-called treaty of 1866, and that was the only connection. My point was 
that the tribe points the finger at the US for ignoring treaties and is now 
doing the same thing.

Anita


>From: "Stephan A. Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history         
>      <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: Cherokee Election March 3rd Q&A
>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:23:38 -0500
>
>This is not about historical fairness, or anything about history at  all, 
>except the use of racial characterization in the service of  greed.  This 
>is about how, one group is forcing another group away  from the money table 
>so "there will be more for me."
>
>-- Stephan
>
>On 4 Mar 2007, at 11:14, Coats Family History wrote:
>
>>Once again this is a Cherokee by Blood issue....Cherokee democracy  at 
>>work...
>>
>>The Freedment didn't sign the 1866 treaty and the US forced the
>>Cherokees to enter into that treaty...
>>
>>Once again not the Cherokee Nation's fault, the Dawes choose to record
>>the information the way they did...
>>
>>I have no family stories of slaves among my Cherokee ancestors...so I
>>admit no knowledge of slaves and their owners....
>>
>>Charlotte
>>
>>
>>
>>On 3/4/07, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>There is a United Cherokee Tribe of Virginia that celebrates their  
>>>ancestry
>>>in the state.  They were mostly located in the mountains in the SW  part 
>>>of
>>>the state.
>>>
>>>The Cherokees were slaveowners and while they banned the ownership  of  
>>>Indian
>>>slaves in the early 18th century as a tribal matter, they  collected and  
>>>kept
>>>Black slaves up until 1866 when that ended via treaty with the  US.   
>>>See,
>>>Theda Perdue, Slavery and the Evolution of Cherokee Society.  The   
>>>Cherokee were
>>>notoriously cruel slave owners and developed great skill in   tracking 
>>>down
>>>runaway slaves for white owners;  however some had a habit of   killing 
>>>the Black
>>>slaves once they found them and so the Cherokee fell out of  favor  as 
>>>slave
>>>catchers.  Seems like this dislike for their Black brothers  goes  a ways 
>>>back.
>>>76% is a pretty telling indication of how the tribal  members  still 
>>>feel.
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>>
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>>
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>>The next you are all-wise and prehistoric.
>>~Pam Brown
>>
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