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It's beginning to sound like Canada-- where nearly all the provinces want to become independent for one reason or another.  Unrest is everywhere.

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Melinda C. P. Skinner
Richmond, VA


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> By BILL POOVEY, Associated Press WriterWed Oct 3, 3:15 AM ET  
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> In an unlikely marriage of desire to secede from the United States, two  
> advocacy groups from opposite political traditions — New England  and the 
> South — 
> are sitting down to talk. 
> Tired of foreign wars and what they consider right-wing courts, the  
> Middlebury Institute wants liberal states like Vermont to be able to secede  
> peacefully. 
> That sounds just fine to the League of the South, a conservative group that  
> refuses to give up on Southern independence. 
> "We believe that an independent South, or Hawaii, Alaska, or Vermont would be 
>  better able to serve the interest of everybody, regardless of race or  
> ethnicity," said Michael Hill of Killen, Ala., president of the League of the  
> South. 
> Separated by hundreds of miles and divergent political philosophies, the  
> Middlebury Institute and the League of the South are hosting a two-day  
> Secessionist Convention starting Wednesday in Chattanooga. 
> They expect to attract supporters from California, Alaska and Hawaii,  
> inviting anyone who wants to dissolve the Union so states can save themselves  
> from 
> an overbearing federal government. 
> If allowed to go their own way, New Englanders "probably would allow abortion 
>  and have gun control," Hill said, while Southerners "would probably crack 
> down  on illegal immigration harder than it is being now." 
> The U.S. Constitution does not explicitly prohibit secession, but few people  
> think it is politically viable. 
> Vermont, one of the nation's most liberal states, has become a hotbed for  
> liberal secessionists, a fringe movement that gained new traction because of the 
>  Iraq war, rising oil prices and the formation of several pro-secession  
> groups. 
> Thomas Naylor, the founder of one of those groups, the Second Vermont  
> Republic, said the friendly relationship with the League of the South doesn't  
> mean 
> everyone shares all the same beliefs. 
> But Naylor, a retired Duke University professor, said the League of the South 
>  shares his group's opposition to the federal government and the need to 
> pursue  secession. 
> "It doesn't matter if our next president is Condoleeza (Rice) or Hillary  
> (Clinton), it is going to be grim," said Naylor, adding that there are  
> secessionist movements in more than 25 states, including Hawaii, Alaska, New  
> Hampshire, South Carolina and Texas. 
> The Middlebury Institute, based in Cold Spring, N.Y., was started in 2005.  
> Its followers, disillusioned by the Iraq war and federal imperialism, share the 
>  idea of states becoming independent republics. They contend their movement 
> is  growing. 
> The first North American Separatist Convention was held last fall in Vermont, 
>  which, unlike most Southern states, supports civil unions. Voters there 
> elected  a socialist to the U.S. Senate. 
> Middlebury director Kirpatrick Sale said Hill offered to sponsor the second  
> secessionist convention, but the co-sponsor arrangement was intended to show  
> that "the folks up north regard you as legitimate colleagues." 
> "It bothers me that people have wrongly declared them to be racists," Sale  
> said. 
> The League of the South says it is not racist, but proudly displays a  
> Confederate Battle Flag on its banner. 
> Mark Potok, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence  
> Project, which monitors hate groups, said the League of the South "has been on  
> our 
> list close to a decade."  
> "What is remarkable and really astounding about this situation is we see  
> people and institutions who are supposedly on the progressive left rubbing  
> shoulders with bona fide white supremacists," Potok said.  
> Sale said the League of the South "has not done or said anything racist in  
> its 14 years of existence," and that the Southern Poverty Law Center is not  
> credible.  
> "They call everybody racists," Sale said. "There are, no doubt, racists in  
> the League of the South, and there are, no doubt, racists everywhere."  
> Harry Watson, director of the Center For the Study of the American South and  
> a history professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, said 
> it  was a surprise to see The Middlebury Institute conferring with the League 
> of the  South, "an organization that's associated with a cause that many of us 
> associate  with the preservation of slavery."  
> He said the unlikely partnering "represents the far left and far right of  
> American politics coming together."  
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> On the Net:  
> Middlebury Institute: http://middleburyinstitute.org/  
> League of the South: http://www.leagueofthesouth.net  
> Second Vermont Republic: http://www.vermontrepublic.org/  
> Southern Poverty Law Center: http://www.splcenter.org/index.jsp 
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