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The holdings of many state archives, local libraries, genealogical societies and other historical organizations contain such information.  Black Southernes in Confederate Armies contains list of these as well as pension records, pictures, first hand narrative accounts, etc.  The Alabama Historical Quarterly, Vol. 6, 1944 has a picture of both White and Black Confederate veterans at a reunion.

Don't know what the credibility issue is on this point.  Many clearly served and were undoubtedly proud to do so and defend their home land.  


JDS



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Sent: Wed, Oct 20, 2010 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: Virginia 4th Grade Textbook


The fact that there are no primary sources that definitely state that blacks
erved as soldiers in the Confederacy makes the claims over the years weak. 
ntil you can provide primary sources that show black soldiers were enlisted in
he Confederate military as soliders, receiving pay, and a pension, it is not
act, it is supposition and doesn't stand up to a factual statement, and as a
esponsible educator cannot be taught in the classroom as fact.
Karen Needles
irector
incolnarchives Digital Project
ttp://wwwlincolnarchives.us

nce again, 
n October 20, 2010 at 2:05 PM JEFFREY D SOUTHMAYD <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Why does the legalization of marijuana cause such "intense oppostion"  when
 very many Americans already use the drug and it is in common usage?  There has
 always been the de facto verses the de jure in history and life and often the
 two are in conflict.  The fact there might have been opposition to Black
 soldiers doesn't prove they didn't exist and indeed fight for the South.
 
 
 JDS
 
 
 
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 From: Tarter, Brent (LVA) <[log in to unmask]>
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 Sent: Wed, Oct 20, 2010 1:32 pm
 Subject: Re: Virginia 4th Grade Textbook
 
 
 Bruce C. Levine in his 2006 book, Confederate Emancipation: Southern
 lans to Free and Arm Slaves during the Civil War, posed a very
 mportant question: Why did the law that passed the Confederate Congress
 arly in 1865 to change public policy and free slaves who fought in the
 onfederate army generate such intense opposition if any appreciable
 umber of free black or enslaved Southerners had already been fighting
 n the army?
  
 That question throws a large dash of cold water on the reliability of
 ndocumented post-Civil War assertions that any significant number of
 lack Southerners willingly fought for the Confederacy.
  
 What is lacking are military and archival records that prove that they
 id.
  
 I am willing to believe that just about anything is possible in a large
 opulation of Homo sapiens, and you can find some evidence somewhere to
 upport just about any assertion. There were, in fact, a very small
 umber of African American Virginians who received Confederate pensions
 n the twentieth century, though few or none of them had volunteered as
 oldiers. See Bill Archer, "Samuel Walker: Slave, Freedman, and
 ensioner, 1842-1933," Virginia Cavalcade 50 (2001): 40-47.
  
 The 1924 amendment to the Virginia pension law that authorized those
 ensions did not even mention volunteer soldiers. It offered pensions to
 en who had "actually accompanied a soldier in the service and remained
 aithful and loyal as the body servant of such soldier, or who served as
 ook, hostler or teamster or worked on breastworks . . . and thereby
 endered service to the Confederacy."
  
 What I have not seen (and I do not believe that it exists until somebody
 hows us) are authentic military and archival records that document the
 ilitary service of numerous African American Virginians who were not
 ody servants, impressed laborers, or enslaved workers doing what their
 wners required them to do.
  
 Lacking such documentation, I find it impossible to believe implausible
 fter-the-fact stories about black Confederate regiments or even any
 arge numbers of black Confederate soldiers. Revisionist writers late in
 he nineteenth century and early in the twentieth century propagated
 hat myth.
  
 Good writers, however good they are, who do not know enough about the
 ubject matter on which they write to recognize red warning flags or to
 now where the interpretive land mines are buried on the bookshelf or in
 he Web or to understand the differences between assertions and
 ocumented facts, cannot write good history. And textbook publishers,
 bove all, should require accuracy.
  
 If there is a discrepancy of interpretation on an important matter like
 his, perhaps the writers and publishers should include the variant
 nterpretations and enough of the evidence that people can make up their
 wn minds. Or better yet, teachers and students can learn how to
 valuate evidence and understand disagreements and develop some useful
 ritical thinking skills, something evidently sorely lacking here.
  
 My $0.02 (U.S. currency) worth from,
  
 Brent Tarter
 The Library of Virginia
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 Please visit the Library of Virginia's Web site at
 ttp://www.lva.virginia.gov
  
 
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