J. South,
Everyone elected to the presidency is "inexperienced" in some degree or
another, unless they have served already, in which case, they can be judged
on their record.
Why did the south want the federal forts to be surrended to them anyway? Had
they paid for them? Resupplying a fort is not reason to fire on it. It is
reason to ask what is going on and set another date, if desired, to
surrender the fort. But, the term "surrender" suggests that the south
expected it to be a gift. What consideration were they giving for this fort?
Anne
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> Nice analysis of history.? Sounds like it was written by Seward.
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> The peaceful surrender of Fort Sumter was arranged for April 15th.? Then
> Lincoln, et. al., thought they would be cute and try to resupply the fort
> with troops and arms under the noses of the South Carolina militia.? The
> approach of the ships triggered the firing.? The firing triggered another
> brilliant Lincoln move of calling for troops from all the states in the
> Union, including Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee and North Carolina, to
> invade the South.
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> Lincoln handled the secession crisis with all the finesse of a bull in a
> china shop, and was personally responsible for the deaths of
> 600,000-700,000 brave American men.? A good lesson on why not to elect
> inexperienced politicians to the presidency during times of crisis, or any
> other time for that matter.
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> J South
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> Walter,?
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> Your qualifications are worth noting. President Lincoln did not
> willy-nilly
> call out an army, but acted with caution and reason in response to the
> demands to take over federal propery, such as Fort Sumpter, and such. For
> the life of me, I do not understand why the south pretends they were put
> upon by the war, when it was the south that fired the first shot. Had the
> south responded with courtesy and restraint with the commander at Fort
> Sumpter, who was in the right to continue his presence until recalled by
> his
> commander in chief, they could have averted the blood shed. The south was
> out for blood, and they got it!?
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> Anne?
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> Anne Pemberton?
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> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:09 PM?
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> Subject: 10132106Z08 Articles 9 And 10 And 1st Amendment?
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>> "Lincoln never gave the US courts the opportunity to render an opinion on
>> the Constitutionality of secession.? He?
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>> just summarily called for the raising of an army to invade the initially
>> seceding states --"?
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>>?
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>> The statement does not suit for any general examination of a timeline for
>> a "dejure" secessionist argument since?
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>> both officials and ordinary citizens of several seceding states had
>> engaged and or were engaging in acts of?
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>> violence against Federal persons and property.?
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>>?
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>> An argument for secession must be incident free of any act of violence or
>> call for violence to achieve credible?
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>> review as provided for by the words set forth throughout the U. S.
>> Constitution -- using a literal reading thereof.?
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