Choose not to communicate at the level of their ability in a college level course costing at least $1,000? Now THAT'S lucid.
Anne Pemberton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Clara,
I would assume that your classmates also had to demonstrate their writing
ability, but, in the classroom, for whatever reason chose not to communicate
at the level of their ability. Is it possible that they also had a low
opinion of your writing and comprehending skills? As popular as online
courses are, I seriously doubt that a university would have to "fill the
seats" in a vitual classroom. I, too, have taken online courses from a major
university, and found the quality of my classmate to be higher than those
who occupied "seats" in a particular local institution.
Anne
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Clara Callahan"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:26 AM
Subject: Re: Native American CultureS
>I started to comment on this a couple of minutes ago and somehow shot it
>into the ozone so I apologize in advance for an incomplete response that
>might appear.
>
> I took a few distance learning courses from a major university and found
> myself in a virtual classroom with students who couldn't write coherent
> sentences. In order to attend, I was required to demonstrate my writing
> ability. In the classroom I was stunned to find myself trying to
> communicate with students who were writing (and comprehending) at 6th
> grade level or worse. How'd they get into the class? Obviously, school
> officials were willing to lower the bar to fill the seats, which impacted
> the quality of the learning experience for those of us who recognized the
> problem. Dumbing down is a reality at every level.
>
>
>
> Kathleen Much wrote:
> On 2/12/07, Fred Fausz wrote:
>> I have learned
> never to trust information unless I have found it, seen it, and
> verified its accuracy myself. This is especially critical these
> days, because all of the careful copyeditors and conscientious
> critics seem to have become extinct. Was there a purge? <
>
> As good as. Publishers don't pay enough to attract the kind of
> well-educated editors I used to work with. In fact, many of them
> explicitly tell copyeditors to fix only the most egregious errors and
> not to "waste time" on fact-checking. They usually dispense with
> content and line editing altogether unless a book is expected to sell
> in very large quantities. Some authors hire their own editors, knowing
> that they won't get more than a cursory glance from their publisher's
> hired hands.
>
> And most colleges don't pay attention to writing skills, so their
> young graduates are generally ill-prepared to learn the editorial
> craft (the exceptions seem to be self-educated). Well-trained editors
> are dying and retiring, and the pipeline is running dry.
>
> Kathleen
> The Book Doctor
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